From: John Olender <john.olender@gmail.com>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
"Alex Deucher" <alexdeucher@gmail.com>
Cc: amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, arunpravin.paneerselvam@amd.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] drm/amdgpu/uvd: Ensure vcpu bos are within the uvd segment
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2025 13:52:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <35c5b699-d685-4b01-bbd1-931f6a4929b2@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <db7f6c9b-5ff4-4bdd-a843-d5a39f1a0d84@amd.com>
On 6/3/25 12:26 PM, Christian König wrote:
>
>
> On 6/3/25 16:34, John Olender wrote:
>>>> Oh, that's a very interesting find. Could you try to turn around the way the patch works?
>>>>
>>>> E.g. instead of forcing the UVD FW into the first segment, change amdgpu_uvd_force_into_uvd_segment() so that the BOs are forced into the same segment as the UVD firmware.
>>>>
>>
>> I started implementing this and I realized two main problems with this
>> approach.
>>
>> First, there's currently no guarantee the UVD FW does not cross a 256MB
>> boundary.
>
> There actually is a guarantee for that.
>
> FW BOs are always allocated contiguously, and the allocation backend makes sure that for example an 16MiB (rounded up) FW is always aligned to a 16MiB boundary.
>
> So FW memory never crosses a segment boundary larger than it's rounded up size. Without that tons of things in our driver would fall apart, not just UVD :)
Aha, thanks!
>
> Checking for this and providing a fallback is going to make
>> this patch... not really any less complex than the original.
>>
>> Second, most of time this is just going to end up selecting the first
>> segment anyway. I'll go more into this below.
>
> That's fine with me. I'm just concerned about that 1% of people where it potentially worked before and we are now breaking it.
>
>>
>>>> That would resolve my concern that this could overload the first segment. The feedback and message BO are usually rather small (4 or 128k IIRC), but the firmware is a couple of megabytes in size.
>>>>
>>>> When we have other FW and VGA emulation buffers in the first segment as well then that could result into clashing that segment to much.
>>>>
Okay this makes much more sense. I read this as general concern and put
the brakes on, especially after missing the above.
I'll resume work on the simplified patch.
Thanks again,
John
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-03 17:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-29 11:24 [RFC PATCH 0/2] drm/amdgpu: CIK UVD initialization fixes John Olender
2025-04-29 11:24 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] drm/amdgpu: amdgpu_vram_mgr_new(): Clamp lpfn to total vram John Olender
2025-04-30 21:20 ` Alex Deucher
2025-04-30 21:44 ` Paneer Selvam, Arunpravin
2025-05-02 15:32 ` John Olender
2025-05-03 12:23 ` Paneer Selvam, Arunpravin
2025-05-11 20:33 ` Paneer Selvam, Arunpravin
2025-05-11 20:37 ` Paneer Selvam, Arunpravin
2025-05-12 7:09 ` Christian König
2025-05-12 7:11 ` Paneer Selvam, Arunpravin
2025-05-15 15:49 ` Paneer Selvam, Arunpravin
2025-05-23 11:31 ` Paneer Selvam, Arunpravin
2025-05-02 8:28 ` Christian König
2025-04-29 11:24 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] drm/amdgpu/uvd: Ensure vcpu bos are within the uvd segment John Olender
2025-04-30 21:39 ` Alex Deucher
2025-05-02 8:36 ` Christian König
2025-05-03 20:31 ` John Olender
2025-05-05 9:02 ` Christian König
2025-05-05 16:06 ` John Olender
2025-05-07 11:31 ` John Olender
2025-05-29 23:15 ` John Olender
2025-06-02 10:00 ` Christian König
2025-06-02 13:03 ` John Olender
2025-06-03 14:34 ` John Olender
2025-06-03 16:26 ` Christian König
2025-06-03 17:52 ` John Olender [this message]
2025-06-05 9:21 ` John Olender
2025-06-05 9:54 ` Christian König
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