From: Harry Wentland <harry.wentland@amd.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V8 32/43] drm/colorop: Add 1D Curve Custom LUT type
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 11:05:36 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ca1958f-62e0-4a5c-837b-3cd705acc181@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CY5PR11MB63449DBA54519766E345CADAF4B22@CY5PR11MB6344.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On 2025-04-15 02:40, Shankar, Uma wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2025 11:47 AM
>> To: Shankar, Uma <uma.shankar@intel.com>
>> Cc: Alex Hung <alex.hung@amd.com>; dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org; amd-
>> gfx@lists.freedesktop.org; intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org; wayland-
>> devel@lists.freedesktop.org; harry.wentland@amd.com; leo.liu@amd.com;
>> ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com; pekka.paalanen@collabora.com;
>> mwen@igalia.com; jadahl@redhat.com; sebastian.wick@redhat.com;
>> shashank.sharma@amd.com; agoins@nvidia.com; joshua@froggi.es;
>> mdaenzer@redhat.com; aleixpol@kde.org; xaver.hugl@gmail.com;
>> victoria@system76.com; daniel@ffwll.ch; quic_naseer@quicinc.com;
>> quic_cbraga@quicinc.com; quic_abhinavk@quicinc.com; marcan@marcan.st;
>> Liviu.Dudau@arm.com; sashamcintosh@google.com; Borah, Chaitanya Kumar
>> <chaitanya.kumar.borah@intel.com>; louis.chauvet@bootlin.com
>> Subject: RE: [PATCH V8 32/43] drm/colorop: Add 1D Curve Custom LUT type
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 15th, 2025 at 08:09, Shankar, Uma <uma.shankar@intel.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We want to have just one change in the way we expose the hardware
>>> capabilities else all looks good in general.
>>
>> I would really recommend leaving this as a follow-up extension. It's a complicated
>> addition that requires more discussion.
>
> Hi Simon,
> We have tried to solve the complex part and made it simple to understand and implement
> along with a reference implementation [1] (can also help add the same for AMD case as well).
> Without this we will end up with up 2 interfaces for 1dL Lut which is not nice where the one above
> will be able to cover the current one. Let us know the problems with the proposed interface and we can
> work to fix the same. But having a common and single interface is good and the current one will not fit
> Intel's color pipeline distribution so the generic one anyways will be needed, and it will benefit userspace
> to know the underlying LUT distribution to compute the LUT samples.
>
> [1] https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/series/129812/
>
I think there is a lot of value in giving userspace a simple LUT
to work with. There are many compositors and many compositor
maintainers. When someone new jumps into color management usually
same thing happens. It starts with "it's not too complicated",
and then over a period of time progresses to "this is very much
non-trivial" as understanding one bit usually opens ten more
questions.
Forcing people to deal with another level of complexity will
discourage implementations and be counterproductive to furthering
adoption of color operations for HW acceleration, IMO.
I'm am not opposed to a complex LUT definition but I don't think
it should replace a simple and well-understood definition.
Harry
> Regards,
> Uma Shankar
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-15 15:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-26 23:46 [PATCH V8 00/43] Color Pipeline API w/ VKMS Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 01/43] drm: Add helper for conversion from signed-magnitude Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 02/43] drm/vkms: Add kunit tests for VKMS LUT handling Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 03/43] drm/doc/rfc: Describe why prescriptive color pipeline is needed Alex Hung
2025-03-29 15:26 ` Simon Ser
2025-04-01 0:10 ` Alex Hung
2025-04-01 7:26 ` Simon Ser
2025-03-31 16:24 ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-31 16:41 ` Alex Hung
2025-03-31 16:54 ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 04/43] drm/colorop: Introduce new drm_colorop mode object Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 05/43] drm/colorop: Add TYPE property Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 06/43] drm/colorop: Add 1D Curve subtype Alex Hung
2025-04-01 15:14 ` Daniel Stone
2025-04-01 19:53 ` Simon Ser
2025-04-01 21:02 ` Harry Wentland
2025-04-08 16:40 ` Daniel Stone
2025-04-08 17:30 ` Harry Wentland
2025-04-08 18:28 ` Daniel Stone
2025-04-10 7:53 ` Pipeline vs. no pipeline (Re: [PATCH V8 06/43] drm/colorop: Add 1D Curve subtype) Pekka Paalanen
2025-04-15 15:29 ` Harry Wentland
2025-04-16 14:39 ` Xaver Hugl
2025-04-17 8:28 ` Pekka Paalanen
2025-04-10 10:05 ` [PATCH V8 06/43] drm/colorop: Add 1D Curve subtype Simon Ser
2025-04-15 11:12 ` Borah, Chaitanya Kumar
2025-04-17 15:13 ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 07/43] drm/colorop: Add BYPASS property Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 08/43] drm/colorop: Add NEXT property Alex Hung
2025-03-27 23:26 ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 09/43] drm/colorop: Add atomic state print for drm_colorop Alex Hung
2025-03-27 23:29 ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 10/43] drm/plane: Add COLOR PIPELINE property Alex Hung
2025-03-29 14:33 ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 11/43] drm/colorop: Introduce DRM_CLIENT_CAP_PLANE_COLOR_PIPELINE Alex Hung
2025-03-29 14:37 ` Simon Ser
2025-04-01 1:42 ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 12/43] Documentation/gpu: document drm_colorop Alex Hung
2025-03-29 14:40 ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 13/43] drm/vkms: Add enumerated 1D curve colorop Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 14/43] drm/vkms: Add kunit tests for linear and sRGB LUTs Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 15/43] drm/colorop: Add 3x4 CTM type Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 16/43] drm/vkms: Use s32 for internal color pipeline precision Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 17/43] drm/vkms: add 3x4 matrix in color pipeline Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 18/43] drm/tests: Add a few tests around drm_fixed.h Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 19/43] drm/vkms: Add tests for CTM handling Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 20/43] drm/colorop: pass plane_color_pipeline client cap to atomic check Alex Hung
2025-03-29 15:32 ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 21/43] drm/colorop: define a new macro for_each_new_colorop_in_state Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 22/43] drm/amd/display: Ignore deprecated props when plane_color_pipeline set Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 23/43] drm/amd/display: Add bypass COLOR PIPELINE Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 24/43] drm/amd/display: Skip color pipeline initialization for cursor plane Alex Hung
2025-03-30 9:48 ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-30 12:59 ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-31 14:28 ` Alex Hung
2025-03-31 15:43 ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-31 16:06 ` Alex Hung
2025-03-31 16:12 ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-31 16:26 ` Alex Hung
2025-03-31 16:31 ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-31 16:34 ` Alex Hung
2025-03-31 16:50 ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-31 17:04 ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-31 17:42 ` Alex Hung
2025-03-31 18:53 ` Xaver Hugl
2025-04-01 0:28 ` Alex Hung
2025-04-01 15:04 ` Xaver Hugl
2025-04-01 15:45 ` Melissa Wen
2025-04-01 19:39 ` Harry Wentland
2025-04-01 1:04 ` Shengyu Qu
2025-04-01 1:24 ` Alex Hung
2025-04-01 9:56 ` Michel Dänzer
2025-04-01 12:32 ` Shengyu Qu
2025-04-01 14:11 ` Michel Dänzer
2025-04-01 15:45 ` Shengyu Qu
2025-04-01 19:45 ` Harry Wentland
2025-04-02 3:47 ` Qu Shengyu
2025-04-01 16:24 ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 25/43] drm/amd/display: Add support for sRGB EOTF in DEGAM block Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 26/43] drm/amd/display: Add support for sRGB Inverse EOTF in SHAPER block Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 27/43] drm/amd/display: Add support for sRGB EOTF in BLND block Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 28/43] drm/colorop: Add PQ 125 EOTF and its inverse Alex Hung
2025-03-29 14:48 ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 29/43] drm/amd/display: Enable support for PQ 125 EOTF and Inverse Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 30/43] drm/colorop: add BT2020/BT709 OETF and Inverse OETF Alex Hung
2025-03-29 14:53 ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 31/43] drm/amd/display: Add support for BT.709 and BT.2020 TFs Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 32/43] drm/colorop: Add 1D Curve Custom LUT type Alex Hung
2025-03-29 14:55 ` Simon Ser
2025-04-15 6:09 ` Shankar, Uma
2025-04-15 6:16 ` Simon Ser
2025-04-15 6:40 ` Shankar, Uma
2025-04-15 15:05 ` Harry Wentland [this message]
2025-04-15 16:25 ` Simon Ser
2025-05-22 11:33 ` Shankar, Uma
2025-05-30 13:58 ` Pekka Paalanen
2025-06-03 8:30 ` Shankar, Uma
2025-06-03 10:51 ` Pekka Paalanen
2025-06-03 20:26 ` Harry Wentland
2025-06-04 18:59 ` Shankar, Uma
2025-06-05 7:30 ` Pekka Paalanen
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 33/43] drm/amd/display: add shaper and blend colorops for 1D Curve Custom LUT Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 34/43] drm/amd/display: add 3x4 matrix colorop Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 35/43] drm/colorop: Add mutliplier type Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 36/43] drm/amd/display: add multiplier colorop Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 37/43] drm/amd/display: Swap matrix and multiplier Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 38/43] drm/colorop: Define LUT_1D interpolation Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 39/43] drm/colorop: allow non-bypass colorops Alex Hung
2025-03-29 15:41 ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 40/43] drm/colorop: Add 3D LUT support to color pipeline Alex Hung
2025-03-29 14:57 ` Simon Ser
2025-04-25 13:50 ` Leandro Ribeiro
2025-05-13 3:39 ` Alex Hung
2025-05-17 1:22 ` Xaver Hugl
2025-05-17 11:53 ` Simon Ser
2025-05-17 22:32 ` Xaver Hugl
2025-05-19 23:43 ` Simon Ser
2025-05-20 20:13 ` Harry Wentland
2025-05-21 19:18 ` Harry Wentland
2025-05-22 10:14 ` Simon Ser
2025-05-22 11:46 ` Shankar, Uma
2025-05-17 17:36 ` Autumn Ashton
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 41/43] drm/amd/display: add 3D LUT colorop Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 42/43] drm/amd/display: Add AMD color pipeline doc Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 43/43] drm/colorop: Add destroy functions for color pipeline Alex Hung
2025-03-29 15:48 ` Simon Ser
2025-04-01 2:42 ` Alex Hung
2025-04-10 16:18 ` Simon Ser
2025-03-29 15:51 ` [PATCH V8 00/43] Color Pipeline API w/ VKMS Simon Ser
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