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From: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	alexander.deucher@amd.com, airlied@linux.ie, daniel@ffwll.ch,
	maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com, mripard@kernel.org
Cc: amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] drm/radeon: Pin buffers while they are vmap'ed
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 14:56:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b356ee3d-64bd-30c9-23f6-dea3a1b87bea@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2431a0e1-7159-b3e7-e1ca-3e7f55c38d8a@amd.com>


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Hi

Am 24.11.20 um 14:36 schrieb Christian König:
> Am 24.11.20 um 13:15 schrieb Thomas Zimmermann:
>> [SNIP]
>>>>>> First I wanted to put this into drm_gem_ttm_vmap/vunmap(), but 
>>>>>> then wondered why ttm_bo_vmap() doe not acquire the lock 
>>>>>> internally? I'd expect that vmap/vunmap are close together and do 
>>>>>> not overlap for the same BO. 
>>>>>
>>>>> We have use cases like the following during command submission:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. lock
>>>>> 2. map
>>>>> 3. copy parts of the BO content somewhere else or patch it with 
>>>>> additional information
>>>>> 4. unmap
>>>>> 5. submit BO to the hardware
>>>>> 6. add hardware fence to the BO to make sure it doesn't move
>>>>> 7. unlock
>>>>>
>>>>> That use case won't be possible with vmap/vunmap if we move the 
>>>>> lock/unlock into it and I hope to replace the kmap/kunmap functions 
>>>>> with them in the near term.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Otherwise, acquiring the reservation lock would require another 
>>>>>> ref-counting variable or per-driver code.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hui, why that? Just put this into drm_gem_ttm_vmap/vunmap() helper 
>>>>> as you initially planned.
>>>>
>>>> Given your example above, step one would acquire the lock, and step 
>>>> two would also acquire the lock as part of the vmap implementation. 
>>>> Wouldn't this fail (At least during unmap or unlock steps) ?
>>>
>>> Oh, so you want to nest them? No, that is a rather bad no-go.
>>
>> I don't want to nest/overlap them. My question was whether that would 
>> be required. Apparently not.
>>
>> While the console's BO is being set for scanout, it's protected from 
>> movement via the pin/unpin implementation, right?
> 
> Yes, correct.
> 
>> The driver does not acquire the resv lock for longer periods. I'm 
>> asking because this would prevent any console-buffer updates while the 
>> console is being displayed.
> 
> Correct as well, we only hold the lock for things like command 
> submission, pinning, unpinning etc etc....
> 

Thanks for answering my questions.

>>
>>>
>>> You need to make sure that the lock is only taken from the FB path 
>>> which wants to vmap the object.
>>>
>>> Why don't you lock the GEM object from the caller in the generic FB 
>>> implementation?
>>
>> With the current blitter code, it breaks abstraction. if vmap/vunmap 
>> hold the lock implicitly, things would be easier.
> 
> Do you have a link to the code?

It's the damage blitter in the fbdev code. [1] While it flushes the 
shadow buffer into the BO, the BO has to be kept in place. I already 
changed it to lock struct drm_fb_helper.lock, but I don't think this is 
enough. TTM could still evict the BO concurrently.

There's no recursion taking place, so I guess the reservation lock could 
be acquired/release in drm_client_buffer_vmap/vunmap(), or a separate 
pair of DRM client functions could do the locking.

Best regards
Thomas

[1] 
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/drm/drm-tip/tree/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_fb_helper.c?id=ac60f3f3090115d21f028bffa2dcfb67f695c4f2#n394

> 
> Please note that the reservation lock you need to take here is part of 
> the GEM object.
> 
> Usually we design things in the way that the code needs to take a lock 
> which protects an object, then do some operations with the object and 
> then release the lock again.
> 
> Having in the lock inside the operation can be done as well, but 
> returning with it is kind of unusual design.
> 
>> Sorry for the noob questions. I'm still trying to understand the 
>> implications of acquiring these locks.
> 
> Well this is the reservation lock of the GEM object we are talking about 
> here. We need to take that for a couple of different operations, 
> vmap/vunmap doesn't sound like a special case to me.
> 
> Regards,
> Christian.
> 
>>
>> Best regards
>> Thomas
> 
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Thomas Zimmermann
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-24 13:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-12 13:21 [PATCH 0/7] drm/radeon: Convert to generic fbdev emulation Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-12 13:21 ` [PATCH 1/7] drm/fb-helper: Set framebuffer for vga-switcheroo clients Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-12 13:21 ` [PATCH 2/7] drm/fb-helper: Add hint to enable VT switching during suspend/resume Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-12 13:21 ` [PATCH 3/7] drm/radeon: Whitespace fixes Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-12 13:21 ` [PATCH 4/7] drm/radeon: Pin buffers while they are vmap'ed Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-12 17:16   ` Christian König
2020-11-13  7:59     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-16 11:28       ` Christian König
2020-11-13 16:27         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-16 20:07         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-24  9:16         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-24 11:30           ` Christian König
2020-11-24 11:44             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-24 11:54               ` Christian König
2020-11-24 12:15                 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-24 13:36                   ` Christian König
2020-11-24 13:56                     ` Thomas Zimmermann [this message]
2020-11-24 14:06                       ` Christian König
2020-11-25  8:28                         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-24 14:09                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-25  8:37                         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-25 10:13                           ` Christian König
2020-11-25 10:36                             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-25 10:57                               ` Christian König
2020-11-25 11:38                               ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-25 16:32                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-26 10:15                                   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-26 11:04                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-26 11:28                                       ` Christian König
2020-11-26 11:42                                         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-26 11:59                                       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-26 12:08                                         ` Christian König
2020-11-26 12:14                                           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-26 12:16                                             ` Christian König
2020-11-12 13:21 ` [PATCH 5/7] drm/radeon: Replace framebuffer console with generic implementation Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-12 13:21 ` [PATCH 6/7] drm/radeon: Use fbdev shadow fb Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-12 13:21 ` [PATCH 7/7] drm/radeon: Move radeon_align_pitch() next to its only caller Thomas Zimmermann

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