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From: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>
To: Matthew Auld <matthew.william.auld@gmail.com>
Cc: "Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>,
	"Intel Graphics Development" <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Matthew Auld" <matthew.auld@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 7/9] drm/i915: stop using ttm_bo_wait
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 13:02:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d03545c9-d0cb-5bdb-24e8-9eadcda51b83@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM0jSHMKBb3orp8Ez4sC8TNcjPZF9y-4e12Jy6SPqbJonhYVhw@mail.gmail.com>


On 29/11/2022 18:05, Matthew Auld wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Nov 2022 at 11:14, Tvrtko Ursulin
> <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> + Matt
>>
>> On 25/11/2022 10:21, Christian König wrote:
>>> TTM is just wrapping core DMA functionality here, remove the mid-layer.
>>> No functional change.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com>
>>> ---
>>>    drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gem/i915_gem_ttm.c | 9 ++++++---
>>>    1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gem/i915_gem_ttm.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gem/i915_gem_ttm.c
>>> index 5247d88b3c13..d409a77449a3 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gem/i915_gem_ttm.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gem/i915_gem_ttm.c
>>> @@ -599,13 +599,16 @@ i915_ttm_resource_get_st(struct drm_i915_gem_object *obj,
>>>    static int i915_ttm_truncate(struct drm_i915_gem_object *obj)
>>>    {
>>>        struct ttm_buffer_object *bo = i915_gem_to_ttm(obj);
>>> -     int err;
>>> +     long err;
>>>
>>>        WARN_ON_ONCE(obj->mm.madv == I915_MADV_WILLNEED);
>>>
>>> -     err = ttm_bo_wait(bo, true, false);
>>> -     if (err)
>>> +     err = dma_resv_wait_timeout(bo->base.resv, DMA_RESV_USAGE_BOOKKEEP,
>>> +                                 true, 15 * HZ);
>>
>> This 15 second stuck out a bit for me and then on a slightly deeper look
>> it seems this timeout will "leak" into a few of i915 code paths. If we
>> look at the difference between the legacy shmem and ttm backend I am not
>> sure if the legacy one is blocking or not - but if it can block I don't
>> think it would have an arbitrary timeout like this. Matt your thoughts?
> 
> Not sure what is meant by leak here, but the legacy shmem must also
> wait/block when unbinding each VMA, before calling truncate. It's the

By "leak" I meant if 15s timeout propagates into some code paths visible 
from userspace which with a legacy backend instead have an indefinite 
wait. If we have that it's probably not very good to have this 
inconsistency, or to apply an arbitrary timeout to those path to start with.

> same story for the ttm backend, except slightly more complicated in
> that there might be no currently bound VMA, and yet the GPU could
> still be accessing the pages due to async unbinds, kernel moves etc,
> which the wait here (and in i915_ttm_shrink) is meant to protect
> against. If the wait times out it should just fail gracefully. I guess
> we could just use MAX_SCHEDULE_TIMEOUT here? Not sure if it really
> matters though.

Right, depends if it can leak or not to userspace and diverge between 
backends.

Regards,

Tvrtko

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-30 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-25 10:21 [PATCH 1/9] drm/amdgpu: generally allow over-commit during BO allocation Christian König
2022-11-25 10:21 ` [PATCH 2/9] drm/ttm: remove ttm_bo_(un)lock_delayed_workqueue Christian König
2022-11-25 10:21 ` [PATCH 3/9] drm/ttm: use per BO cleanup workers Christian König
2022-11-29 21:14   ` Felix Kuehling
2022-12-05 13:39     ` Christian König
2023-06-13 13:05       ` Karol Herbst
2023-06-13 13:59         ` Christian König
2023-06-13 14:18           ` Karol Herbst
2023-06-15 11:19             ` Christian König
2023-06-15 12:04               ` Karol Herbst
2022-11-25 10:21 ` [PATCH 4/9] drm/ttm: merge ttm_bo_api.h and ttm_bo_driver.h Christian König
2022-11-25 12:43   ` kernel test robot
2022-11-25 21:19   ` kernel test robot
2022-11-25 10:21 ` [PATCH 5/9] drm/nouveau: stop using ttm_bo_wait Christian König
2022-11-25 10:21 ` [PATCH 6/9] drm/qxl: " Christian König
2022-12-15 14:19   ` Christian König
2022-12-15 20:09     ` Dave Airlie
2022-11-25 10:21 ` [PATCH 7/9] drm/i915: " Christian König
2022-11-25 11:14   ` [Intel-gfx] " Tvrtko Ursulin
2022-11-25 12:46     ` Christian König
2022-11-29 18:05     ` Matthew Auld
2022-11-30 13:02       ` Tvrtko Ursulin [this message]
2022-11-30 14:06         ` Daniel Vetter
2022-12-05 19:58           ` Christian König
2022-12-06 18:03             ` Matthew Auld
2022-12-06 18:06               ` Christian König
2022-11-25 10:21 ` [PATCH 8/9] drm/ttm: use ttm_bo_wait_ctx instead of ttm_bo_wait Christian König
2022-11-25 10:21 ` [PATCH 9/9] drm/ttm: move ttm_bo_wait into VMWGFX Christian König
2022-11-25 18:18 ` [PATCH 1/9] drm/amdgpu: generally allow over-commit during BO allocation Alex Deucher
2022-12-05 13:41   ` Christian König
2022-11-28  6:00 ` Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
2022-12-10  6:15 ` Felix Kuehling
2022-12-10 14:12   ` Christian König
2022-12-11  1:13     ` Felix Kuehling

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