From: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
To: Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>
Cc: Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Matthew Maurer <mmaurer@google.com>,
Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
Wedson Almeida Filho <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>, Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>,
Neal Gompa <neal@gompa.dev>, Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st>,
Janne Grunau <j@jannau.net>, Asahi Linux <asahi@lists.linux.dev>,
linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 16/19] gendwarfksyms: Add support for reserved structure fields
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 11:34:16 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.21.2408301114000.1124@pobox.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240815173903.4172139-37-samitolvanen@google.com>
Hi,
On Thu, 15 Aug 2024, Sami Tolvanen wrote:
> Distributions that want to maintain a stable kABI need the ability to
> add reserved fields to kernel data structures that they anticipate
> will be modified during the ABI support timeframe, either by LTS
> updates or backports.
>
> With genksyms, developers would typically hide changes to the reserved
> fields from version calculation with #ifndef __GENKSYMS__, which would
> result in the symbol version not changing even though the actual type
> of the reserved field changes. When we process precompiled object
> files, this is again not an option.
>
> To support stable symbol versions for reserved fields, change the
> union type processing to recognize field name prefixes, and if the
> union contains a field name that starts with __kabi_reserved, only use
> the type of that field for computing symbol versions. In other words,
> let's assume we have a structure where we want to reserve space for
> future changes:
>
> struct struct1 {
> long a;
> long __kabi_reserved_0; /* reserved for future use */
> };
> struct struct1 exported;
>
> gendwarfksyms --debug produces the following output:
>
> variable structure_type struct1 {
> member base_type long int byte_size(8) encoding(5) data_member_location(0),
> member base_type long int byte_size(8) encoding(5) data_member_location(8),
> } byte_size(16);
> #SYMVER exported 0x67997f89
>
> To take the reserved field into use, a distribution would replace it
> with a union, with one of the fields keeping the __kabi_reserved name
> prefix for the original type:
>
> struct struct1 {
> long a;
> union {
> long __kabi_reserved_0;
> struct {
> int b;
> int v;
> };
> };
yes, this is one of the approaches we use in SLES. We add kabi paddings
to some structures in advance (see [1] as a random example) and then use
it later if needed.
It is not the only approach. Much more often we do not have a padding and
use alignment holes ([5]), addition of a new member to the end of a
structure ([2] or [3]) and such "tricks" ([4] for a newly fully defined
structure).
It is not feasible to add kabi paddings to all structures. We also have a
different approach to kabi in terms of its coverage than RHEL does for
example (as far as I know).
Not sure if it is interesting to upstream but I wanted to mention that it
is not only about the ability to add reserved fields to kernel structures
in practice.
Regards,
Miroslav
[1] https://github.com/SUSE/kernel-source/blob/SLE15-SP6/patches.suse/crypto-add-suse_kabi_padding.patch
[2] https://github.com/SUSE/kernel-source/blob/SLE15-SP6/patches.kabi/0001-iommu-Add-static-iommu_ops-release_domain.patch
[3] https://github.com/SUSE/kernel-source/blob/SLE15-SP6/patches.kabi/nfs-Block-on-write-congestion-kabi-fixup.patch.
[4] https://github.com/SUSE/kernel-source/blob/SLE15-SP6/patches.kabi/of-kabi-workaround.patch
[5] https://github.com/SUSE/kernel-source/blob/SLE15-SP6/patches.kabi/KVM-x86-Snapshot-if-a-vCPU-s-vendor-model-is-AMD-vs..patch
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Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-15 17:39 [PATCH v2 00/19] Implement DWARF modversions Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 01/19] tools: Add gendwarfksyms Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-16 7:14 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-27 16:44 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-26 17:41 ` Petr Pavlu
2024-08-26 18:47 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-28 12:31 ` Petr Pavlu
2024-08-28 21:28 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-28 17:45 ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-08-28 21:32 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-05 2:29 ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-09-05 20:52 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-10 9:43 ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-09-10 21:09 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 02/19] gendwarfksyms: Add symbol list handling Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-27 9:16 ` Petr Pavlu
2024-08-27 18:47 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-28 12:35 ` Petr Pavlu
2024-08-28 23:09 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-02 9:52 ` Petr Pavlu
2024-08-28 18:16 ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-08-28 21:50 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-01 10:59 ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-09-04 20:51 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 03/19] gendwarfksyms: Add address matching Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-27 12:40 ` Petr Pavlu
2024-08-27 21:28 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-28 18:22 ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-08-28 21:56 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-01 11:10 ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-09-04 20:48 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 04/19] gendwarfksyms: Add support for type pointers Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-28 6:50 ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-08-28 7:15 ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-08-28 21:58 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 05/19] gendwarfksyms: Expand base_type Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-28 12:46 ` Petr Pavlu
2024-08-28 22:19 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 06/19] gendwarfksyms: Add a cache for processed DIEs Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-28 18:15 ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-08-28 22:27 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-02 10:05 ` Petr Pavlu
2024-09-05 17:19 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 07/19] gendwarfksyms: Expand type modifiers and typedefs Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 08/19] gendwarfksyms: Expand subroutine_type Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-03 15:11 ` Petr Pavlu
2024-09-05 17:22 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 09/19] gendwarfksyms: Expand array_type Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 10/19] gendwarfksyms: Expand structure types Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 11/19] gendwarfksyms: Limit structure expansion Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-03 15:15 ` Petr Pavlu
2024-09-05 18:15 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 12/19] gendwarfksyms: Add die_map debugging Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 13/19] gendwarfksyms: Add symtypes output Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-10 14:58 ` Petr Pavlu
2024-09-10 21:15 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 14/19] gendwarfksyms: Add symbol versioning Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-11 10:08 ` Petr Pavlu
2024-09-11 16:03 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-12 10:28 ` Petr Pavlu
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 15/19] gendwarfksyms: Add support for declaration-only data structures Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 16/19] gendwarfksyms: Add support for reserved structure fields Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-16 7:20 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-16 15:50 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-17 7:41 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-17 13:19 ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-19 18:25 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-19 21:46 ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-19 19:38 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-19 22:16 ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-20 18:47 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-20 20:03 ` Matthew Maurer
2024-08-21 11:31 ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-21 23:01 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-21 23:29 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-22 5:55 ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-22 7:29 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-22 12:00 ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-22 23:53 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-23 19:17 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-24 13:29 ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-24 13:27 ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-30 9:34 ` Miroslav Benes [this message]
2024-08-31 0:05 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-11 11:43 ` Petr Pavlu
2024-09-12 16:06 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-12 18:08 ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-12 20:58 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-12 21:58 ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-12 22:37 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-13 8:00 ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 17/19] export: Add __gendwarfksyms_ptr_ references to exported symbols Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 18/19] x86/asm-prototypes: Include <asm/ptrace.h> Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-01 10:50 ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-09-04 20:47 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 19/19] kbuild: Add gendwarfksyms as an alternative to genksyms Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 20:13 ` [PATCH v2 00/19] Implement DWARF modversions Sedat Dilek
2024-08-15 20:47 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-21 0:12 ` Sedat Dilek
2024-08-16 7:15 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-22 16:43 ` Jonathan Corbet
2024-08-22 17:57 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-28 7:04 ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-08-28 22:53 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-02 9:57 ` Petr Pavlu
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