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From: Arend van Spriel <arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	"Valo, Kalle" <kvalo@qca.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
	Stanislaw Gruszka <sgruszka@redhat.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	ath10k <ath10k@lists.infradead.org>,
	"mmarek@suse.com" <mmarek@suse.com>,
	"michal.kazior@tieto.com" <michal.kazior@tieto.com>,
	Arend van Spriel <arend@broadcom.com>,
	Emmanuel Grumbach <egrumbach@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] ath10k: silence firmware file probing warnings
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 21:19:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6fb6f394-83fe-87e6-ef49-9fa854899721@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160803171044.GP3296@wotan.suse.de>



On 03-08-16 19:10, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 03:04:39PM +0000, Valo, Kalle wrote:
>> "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org> writes:
>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 01:33:31PM +0200, Arend van Spriel wrote:
>>>> On 02-08-16 16:16, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 11:10:22AM +0000, Valo, Kalle wrote:
>>>>>> "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was considering this as a future extension to the firmware API
>>>>>>> through the new extensible firmware API, the sysdata API.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think Linus mentioned this already, but I want to reiterate anyway.
>>>>>> The name "sysdata" is horrible, I didn't have any idea what it means
>>>>>> until I read your description. Please continue to use the term
>>>>>> "firmware", anyone already know what it means.
>>>>>
>>>>> We've gone well past using the firmware API for firmware though, if
>>>>> we use it for 802.11 to replace CRDA for instance its really odd to
>>>>> be calling it firmware. But sure... I will rebrand again to firmware...
>>>>
>>>> I tend to agree. Although some people even call an OpenWrt image
>>>> firmware. Guess it is just in the eye of the beholder.
>>>
>>> Sure...
>>>
>>> Come to think of it I'll still go with "sysdata", this is a very minor
>>> detail, do let me know if there is anything technical rather than
>>> the color of the bikeshed [0] over the patches.
>>
>> Well, you don't seem to care but I prefer that the terminology is clear
>> and I don't want to waste people's time browsing the source to find out
>> what something means.
> 
> Its not that I don't care, its this is a super trivial matter, like the
> color of a bikeshed, and I'd much prefer to put energy and review on
> technical matters.
> 
>> Even "driverdata" would be more descriptive for me
>> than "sysdata".
>>
>> Actually, what does the "sys" refer here, system? And what system is
>> that exactly?
> 
> Yes system, so as in system data file. "driver_data" is just as good.
> Although who knows, others may want to paint the bikeshed a different
> color.
> 
> The core reason why the name change is to make emphasis of the fact that
> we've gone way past the point where the APIs are used for non-firmware
> and I expect this use will only grow.

Here some colors to add to the palet with "color code" in brackets:
- device specific data (dsd): although if CRDA stuff is loaded it is no
	longer tied to a device.
- eXtensible firmware API (xfw): the ever popular x factor :-p
- binary blob loader (bbl): just popped up in me head.

Need more beer to go on.

Regards,
Arend

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-03 19:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-19 13:00 [RFC] ath10k: silence firmware file probing warnings Michal Kazior
2016-07-21  7:09 ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2016-07-21  7:36   ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2016-07-21  8:05     ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2016-07-21 10:23       ` Prarit Bhargava
2016-07-21 11:51         ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2016-07-21 12:01           ` Prarit Bhargava
2016-07-22  8:38           ` Arend Van Spriel
2016-07-22 10:26             ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2016-07-22 12:21               ` Arend Van Spriel
2016-07-22 12:51                 ` Prarit Bhargava
2016-07-22 22:19                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-25  7:51                     ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2016-07-22 22:15               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-28 19:23                 ` Arend van Spriel
2016-08-02 11:10                 ` Valo, Kalle
2016-08-02 14:16                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-03 11:33                     ` Arend van Spriel
2016-08-03 14:21                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-03 15:04                         ` Valo, Kalle
2016-08-03 17:10                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-03 19:19                             ` Arend van Spriel [this message]
2016-07-22 22:05             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-28 19:23               ` Arend van Spriel
2016-07-28 23:28                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-02 11:18 ` Valo, Kalle
2016-08-02 11:24   ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-20 12:51 ` Kalle Valo
2017-01-20 12:56   ` Michal Kazior
2017-01-31 15:02 ` Kalle Valo

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