From: Sven Eckelmann <sven@narfation.org>
To: b.a.t.m.a.n@lists.open-mesh.org
Subject: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] One step back
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:12:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201106211512.34486.sven@narfation.org> (raw)
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Hi,
after the last mail of David S. Miller, it was more than clear that I am not
the right person to speak on behalf of the batman-adv community. I have the
same opinion about the always changing protocol as he does. I first struggled
with it after getting the batman dissector merged in wireshark, but it is
confronting everyone since the merge into the linux kernel began. Andrew
already told us that we would need to get some kind of stable on the wire
format and some kind of backward compatibility, but it doesn't look like we
get there soon.
I don't know who currently follows which vision, but I know that all those
ideas make the protocol incompatible with the versions before (and this will
happen again and again and again ...). I don't have answers how it can be done
differently and still the current problems can be solved. That means, I can
neither represent the position of the ongoing protocol developments nor the
position of the backward compatibility.
So, I doubt that I can present the changes to David S. Miller any longer when
I am sure that he doesn't like the patches for the same reasons I don't like
them. It is better that I don't stand in the way as "grumbling old man" [2]
and make the position free for someone who can really speak on behalf of the
current active developers of batman-adv.
So the first thing I did was a big cleanup. Most of my git repositories are
gone now:
* ecsv/batctl-rebase / ecsv/master-rebase
The development was changed to git some time ago. This makes those
repository relatively useless when the development is done in the
current branch structure. This means that next gets bugfixes/cleanups
which still can be merged by David and then the branch is merged into
master instead of cherry picking patches around. After a release the next
branch (or better the tag of the release) has to be merged into master
(without changing the SOURCE_VERSION in main.h to something else than
"devel"), then the next branch merges the master branch and the new
development cycle is started in next.
* ecsv/debian/batctl ecsv/debian/batmand
Those are only backups. I already have backups in different places - so no
need to store them again on open-mesh
* ecsv/viking
That was a private repository - nobody seems to have noticed it. I doubt
that those maintainers will merge it soon and I will probably just send
them the patches over ml instead of doing a pull request again.
* ecsv/git-conversation-svn
Project to convert the open-mesh svn to smaller git repositories. Seems to
have worked, but is now useless
* ecsv/hash_regression
Just to show that the hash regression was actually a regression in Linus
code. Funny but useless :)
* ecsv/post-commit-daemon
A daemon which started svn hooks at a later point. Those build scripts on
open-mesh were gruel, but I think that we killed them. This makes the
script useless for us
* ecsv/wireshark-batman-adv ecsv/wireshark-batman
Both dissectors are merged in wireshark... somewhat. At least parts of
v12/13 are now supported and it was now noticed that the v14 patches cannot
be applied out of order... but I am full of hope that the patches will be
enter the wireshark svn sometime in the future ("where no man has gone
before..."). But is not necessary to have the plugins in an external
module. It can't be build against an older version of wireshark and new
version of wireshark can't load it due to the conflicting names.
* ecsv/linux-merge
Ok, this one is not really gone - it just can be found under
marek/linux-merge. Maybe it will change the place again.
There are also some scripts which run on daily basis and are a little bit more
verbose.
* /home/batman/linux-next-check/sync-git
It downloads the linux-next tree, Linus tree and pushes parts of the
changes to linux-merge.git - this should be quite silent. But the
./hooks/manual-hook in /home/batman/linux-next-check/linux-next.git/
is triggered and sends mails about changes in net/batman-adv,
Documentation/networking/batman-adv.txt,
Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-class-net-batman-adv and
Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-class-net-mesh to the unhappy person
mentioned in /home/batman/linux-next-check/linux-next.git/config (currently
Marek and Simon)
* /home/batman/packet.h_check/check.sh
This one just send the difference of packet.h in all branches in batctl
and batman-adv to the responsible persons (see the TO="..." at the
beginning of the file)
* /home/batman/build_test/checkstuff.sh
This is more or less the build monster. It builds against kernel 2.6.21
till 2.6.39. I know that it will not work directly against 3.0, but it is
no big change to fix it. It uses sparse, checkpatch.pl from linux-next and
the minimized kernel sources generated through make_all.sh (of course, this
one also doesn't know about 3.0)
Marek and Simon will see the rcu warnings every morning till Andrew Morton
forward my rcu checkpatch patch or it appears through other channels in
linux-next.
The rest should be explained on wiki pages, /srv/git/README or some private
mails.
Kind regards,
Sven
[1] https://lists.open-mesh.org/pipermail/b.a.t.m.a.n/2011-June/005020.html
[2] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8b/StatlerAndWaldorf.jpg
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next reply other threads:[~2011-06-21 13:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-21 13:12 Sven Eckelmann [this message]
2011-06-21 20:01 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] One step back Andrew Lunn
2011-06-22 18:03 ` Marek Lindner
2011-06-22 18:54 ` Andrew Lunn
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