From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 10:25:07 +0200 From: Linus =?utf-8?Q?L=C3=BCssing?= Message-ID: <20131020082506.GC13550@Linus-Debian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lc9FT7cWel8HagAv" Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] A few questions on TVLV Reply-To: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking List-Id: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: b.a.t.m.a.n@lists.open-mesh.org --lc9FT7cWel8HagAv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I think I had posted some thoughts on the TVLV feature on the IRC channel before with some suggestions for changes (e.g. moving the TVLV feature from the individual packet types down to the common batman header). And had tried to come up with examples for features where TVLVs for batman broadcast packets could be useful - which might have been potential, but not the most convincing, not the most awesome features. So now I have a feature which I would like to have / would like to work on in the future [0], and I would like to know: a) Whether it is possible to do that with the current TVLV infrastructure without breaking compatibility. I think it is, probably by announcing this capability via an OGM TVLV and only activating this feature if all visible nodes support it, right? b) If it is possible without breaking compatibility, then this could still cause quite some burdon for heterogeneous, multi party controlled networks, because all nodes would need to upgraded or older ones somehow blacklisted, right? c) What is your estimation, would it be easy to pull the TVLV feature down onto the common batman-header code-wise? d) Would the ease or difficulty to implement it (c)) and the benefits it would provide (a)+b)) justify including a patch for a TVLV-per-batman-header in the first compat bump release? e) The first compat bump patches were already submitted to net/, so there actually wouldn't be much time left to do that, would there? Cheers, Linus PS: I would also volunteer to work on moving the TVLV down to the common batman header, but if the time frame to do that is too short then I'd probably not be fast enough to do that. [0]: Split Horizon with a tag (the tag would need a per batman bcast TVLV) * A per hard-interface mechanism tries to automatically detect whether the connectivity to all local link layer neighbors is both transitive and symmetric. * If so broadcast/multicast packets coming from that interface are tagged with a unique ID (e.g. the lowest MAC address present on that link) * Such tagged packets are never forwarded onto the according link again. --lc9FT7cWel8HagAv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSY5NhAAoJELxyPiAAt6UvUfEP/1GSnRr87dmA/QfQshMp93dF hkXW3JWeitlkiMuWttqpnmmf2xGbCrca6aFA6ak41ZtjQq9NEAIm1X9s/pFGkqEl WDO6McpgIHmQrZiM2m1HaP6L7MWXaXRe1LEIxFocx8rzBXPygHz8G0hk47oAEjin h22c246w2h9bG+1SniYHq+jIhMYBFOFhh0mo2FW8gmFrK/fP7yx8EN8O+fCXxM+u URl/RodEF+9qKiXXrYVb11+nTr8UmKfeBR5DKJ0DwBTefVBXR+Q+J9Y3yk3USYgI fmJbrcSgwXRCtoFfT2QtV8rRmLYCoZJQgxt3iXgAYzv9bImqHkEicb0d2JFUQ17c gjJSW27H8V6iMCcsO1g7Xc1gb8Wil/ef2E7k4FgmAabnpQvHhqea+TLdxwYtltg3 ToNInOXl5l/qm5lMfPPBXzHLYk/CiFW1jZk2pkANL74qu/d0QnXjXjFpJiCN6IPw G27gz9PlqOsHoYqrZ4qhgYF8V/qU18ivWpCqfDq4JJHMti3hAi/F/oxROmSk4xWb COlVKxDzc7HL/av5DIoi+oKWLjzwZl+JWQ6MUfwmjUS0YaAEtC1Euomr6aF7X8fE KlCHf1Zk9Vmc89LIJFkfvXSW8W4FWATf/S/WVF30lRS3fw8NjDRVXxHRMfUP3f0E IFXAgbFuisOn7MVECM6a =AFGF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lc9FT7cWel8HagAv--