Hi, to cite from my original answer: We did have some discussion on that patch too: https://lists.open-mesh.org/pipermail/b.a.t.m.a.n/2014-June/012155.html I wrote that patch because we had problems in commercial installations and dual radio access points, which were fixed by this patch (as described in the mail). I didn't hear any practical problems so far, you are the first one. I guess its not easy to have a "one value fixes all problems" hop penalty, but its at least worth to discuss it - so thank you very much for your input. Since we got this mail on the mailing list now, I'd like to hear opinions from other people and/or communities. Thanks, Simon On Monday 30 March 2015 21:27:26 Ruben Wisniewski wrote: > Forwarded private message, on request by Simon. > > On Friday 27 March 2015 16:52:14 Ruben Wisniewski wrote: > > Hello Simon, > > > > > > we just updated our mesh, to the batman-adv-version 2014.4. Now your > > patch batman-adv: increase default hop penalty[1] is included. > > > > Since we got very large mesh-networks, we have some troubles with your > > patch, which makes long (needed) pathes unusable, because they TQ drop > > to lower zero. > > > > Else, we got some old and some new batman-adv versions, this change > > overloads the old nodes, because their TQ are better, and similiar > > links over new nodes got ignored. > > > > Else I see no improvement overall, because the usual urban link-wide > > is about 30-50 meteres, and we got parts of the net where we need 4-5 > > hops to reach the last node. Your Patch seem to limit these pathes to > > something around 3 hops. So parts of our net are now offline, and the > > speed overall doesn't seem to be improved. > > > > After these experience I like to ask you, if you mind reverting this > > patch again. Else we have to work around with resetting to 15 again on > > boot, which I think is not the prefered solution. > > > > > > [1] > > http://www.open-mesh.org/projects/batman-adv/repository/revisions/7644650b > > b7 66bd4c7b6be5d97e6b1c3ed93a38d7 > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Ruben