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From: Alexander Morlang <alx@dd19.de>
To: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking
	<b.a.t.m.a.n@open-mesh.net>
Subject: Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] dynamic gateway / hna / services
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:05:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46A774DA.4070702@dd19.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46A76A02.7040600@poelzi.org>

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Daniel Poelzleithner schrieb:
> Alexander Morlang wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, but this does not look like a decentral "all are equal" solution,
>> more like a centralized service.
> 
> yes, some sort of. there is a master dns server that ensures uniquiness
> of domains and at least knows how is responsible for the zones. nothing
> forbids you to mirror the zones on all nodes, i just don't see any sense
> in it. 4-5 slave servers should be enough even for a large city. every
> zone admin can run his own masters if he wish to.
> responses will be fast and redundant even if some of them die. and you
> can use real dns software and can run really large zones with large
> entries without wasting pressures router ram. reverse dns, dyndns, like
> my notebooks is always aestas.poelzi.ff if its somewhere in freifunk...
> very cool stuff. dns loc records, very nice. combined with reverse dns
> allows very rfc conform routings visualisations... even can show nodes
> that are offline....

with the small sideeffect of a small group controlling the a-server.

> 
>> i think, something like the olsr-bmf would be more interesting, it gets
>> metrics from the underlying meshrouting protocol but does its own
>> message forwarding.
> 
> what does bmf have to do with dns. if you think about forwarding name
> entries as broadcasts: this is just a wast of bandwidth. i don't even
> start to think about renaming my node to www.google.de and see what
> happens ;)

in opposite of the name plugin wich uses olsr for flooding informations,
bmf does its own flooding. as batman does not support flooding custom
payload, this would be the only way of distributing information
efficient and decentral as long there is a way to get the metrics from
the routing protocol.

And, of course, who are you, desciding for me what a waste of bandwith
in my case ist? ;-)


> 
> kindly regards
>  daniel

cu in finowfurt, alex
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-25 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-24 13:21 [B.A.T.M.A.N.] dynamic gateway / hna / services Freifunk Dresden
2007-07-24 18:35 ` Daniel Poelzleithner
2007-07-25 11:50   ` Alexander Morlang
2007-07-25 12:52     ` tetzlav
2007-07-25 15:06       ` Alexander Morlang
2007-07-25 15:19         ` Daniel Poelzleithner
2007-07-25 16:05           ` Alexander Morlang [this message]
2007-07-25 17:25             ` Daniel Poelzleithner
2007-07-26 12:33               ` Alexander Morlang
2007-07-25 16:21         ` clauz
2007-07-25 15:05     ` Daniel Poelzleithner
2007-07-25 14:56   ` Marek Lindner
2007-07-27 14:07 ` Marek Lindner
2007-07-27 14:43   ` Aaron Kaplan
2007-07-27 15:23     ` Marek Lindner
2007-07-27 16:03       ` Aaron Kaplan
2007-07-27 16:40         ` Marek Lindner
2007-07-27 20:41           ` Aaron Kaplan
2007-07-28  8:03             ` Axel Neumann
2007-07-27 14:59   ` Lui
2007-07-27 15:31     ` Marek Lindner
2007-08-02 14:26 ` Axel Neumann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-08-03  9:31 Freifunk Dresden
2007-08-04  9:43 ` Axel Neumann
2007-08-04 21:38   ` Freifunk Dresden
2007-08-20 13:10   ` Alexander Morlang
2007-08-04 10:34 ` Marek Lindner

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