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From: Alexander Morlang <alx@dd19.de>
To: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking
	<b.a.t.m.a.n@open-mesh.net>
Subject: Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] dublicate HNAs / certificates
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:57:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4963633D.2020306@dd19.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200812191115.20610.neumann@cgws.de>

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Axel Neumann schrieb:
> HI,
> 
> I like brainstorming like this.
> We wanted batmand (and especially its core routing algorithm) to be decentral 
> and simple. So no central point of control/failure and therefore also no HNA 
> server. Of course there are many potential attack vectors in a community mesh 
> and probably there will always be until you completely restrict the access. 
> Therefore IMHO the preferable security to be solved should be:
> 
> - detect and protect against (usually accidental) misconfigurations like 
> duplicate addresses.
> 

sure, a duplicate address is something the routingprotocoll has to
detect and to react on, but:
duplicate HNA are very importand and widely accepted in the internet
community, they are called anycast and are a vital instrument in network
design and deployment.

as an example, anycast ist used for dns root servers, 6to4 tunnel and
many other usecases.

i am still not understanding why you are discussing about removing such
important thing as anycast.

anycast is a way to use distributed services, as you can announce an
anycast address on every node, providing a specific service and packets
will get routed to the nearest service provider.

> - find mechanisms to limit the impact of denial of service or other attacks to  
> the local environment (neighborhood).
> 

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Gruss, Alex
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-01-06 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-02 11:30 [B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman-exp rev.1154 still using 94% CPU load Stephan Enderlein (Freifunk Dresden)
2008-12-02 12:06 ` Axel Neumann
2008-12-02 13:59   ` Stephan Enderlein (Freifunk Dresden)
2008-12-09  9:28   ` Stephan Enderlein (Freifunk Dresden)
2008-12-09 10:22     ` Stephan Enderlein (Freifunk Dresden)
2008-12-11 10:54     ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] dublicate HNAs Axel Neumann
2008-12-11 14:01       ` Freifunk
2008-12-12 10:46         ` Axel Neumann
2008-12-12 23:51           ` Stephan Enderlein (Freifunk Dresden)
2008-12-17 20:14             ` Axel Neumann
2008-12-18 11:11               ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] dublicate HNAs / batmand / certificates Stephan Enderlein (Freifunk Dresden)
2008-12-19 10:15                 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] dublicate HNAs " Axel Neumann
2008-12-19 11:06                   ` Stephan Enderlein (Freifunk Dresden)
2008-12-19 11:19                   ` Stephan Enderlein (Freifunk Dresden)
2008-12-24 18:24                   ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] Testing Batman Resul Cetin
2009-01-06 13:57                   ` Alexander Morlang [this message]
2009-01-15 14:24                     ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] dublicate HNAs / certificates Axel Neumann
2008-12-17 12:19           ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] Can't build a mesh network Resul Cetin
2008-12-17 13:57             ` Resul Cetin
2008-12-17 17:46               ` elektra
2008-12-18  6:32               ` Marek Lindner

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