[B.A.T.M.A.N.] Batman with Ubiquiti SDK

[B.A.T.M.A.N.] Batman with Ubiquiti SDK

[Mitar]

Hi!

Ubiquiti provides OpenWrt based SDK for their firmware. To my
information, it contains some proprietary madwifi-based WiFi drivers
with some older OpenWrt version. My question is how it would be
possible to run Batman on top of their firmware (thus not latest
OpenWrt). As Batman is in kernel, is is enough kernel-backwards
compatible to be able to run also on older (2.6) kernel versions? For
olsrd it is much simpler: you just install olsrd package and this is
it.


Mitar

Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] Batman with Ubiquiti SDK

[Antonio Quartulli]

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On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 01:56:02 +0200, Mitar wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Ubiquiti provides OpenWrt based SDK for their firmware. To my
> information, it contains some proprietary madwifi-based WiFi drivers
> with some older OpenWrt version. My question is how it would be
> possible to run Batman on top of their firmware (thus not latest
> OpenWrt). As Batman is in kernel, is is enough kernel-backwards
> compatible to be able to run also on older (2.6) kernel versions? For
> olsrd it is much simpler: you just install olsrd package and this is
> it.

batman-adv supports old kernel versions starting from 2.6.29.
What kernel is exactly provided with that firmware?
I know about someone else which still maintain compatibility with much older
kernels, but I don't know the state. By the way keeping backward compatibility
with older kernels is really difficult..

Cheers,

-- 
Antonio Quartulli

..each of us alone is worth nothing..
Ernesto "Che" Guevara

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Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] Batman with Ubiquiti SDK

[Sven Eckelmann]

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On Sunday 29 April 2012 09:00:02 Antonio Quartulli wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 01:56:02 +0200, Mitar wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > Ubiquiti provides OpenWrt based SDK for their firmware. To my
> > information, it contains some proprietary madwifi-based WiFi drivers
> > with some older OpenWrt version. My question is how it would be
> > possible to run Batman on top of their firmware (thus not latest
> > OpenWrt). As Batman is in kernel, is is enough kernel-backwards
> > compatible to be able to run also on older (2.6) kernel versions? For
> > olsrd it is much simpler: you just install olsrd package and this is
> > it.
> 
> batman-adv supports old kernel versions starting from 2.6.29.
> What kernel is exactly provided with that firmware?
> I know about someone else which still maintain compatibility with much older
> kernels, but I don't know the state. By the way keeping backward
> compatibility with older kernels is really difficult..

The oldest kernel supported by Marek's patches is [1] is 2.6.21. Ubiquiti uses
something like 2.6.15 [2] (so more or less from the stone age; please correct
me in case they ported the stuff to a newer kernel).

My personal recommendation: When you see somebody that real thinks that a over
six year old, not-maintained-anymore kernel is the way to go: run away.

The oldest kernel we support is over three years old (not maintained anymore
since 2 1/2 years) and the one supported by Mareks patches 5 years old (not
maintained anymore since 4 1/2 years). These are also not real young and fresh
and will be dropped as soon as there is any big problem in maintaining
backward compatibility. The supported versions that will hopefully not go away
so fast are 2.6.32 and 3.2.

Kind regards,
	Sven

[1] http://git.open-mesh.org/?p=marek/batman-adv.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/compat_old_kernel
[2] https://lists.open-mesh.org/pipermail/b.a.t.m.a.n/2010-April/002519.html

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Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] Batman with Ubiquiti SDK

[fboehm]

Hi Mitar,

what Ubiquiti products are you using? Because they have the older 
802.11a/b/g based product series and the newer 802.11n based with their 
proprietary Airmax wireless drivers. I am asking because the Airmax 
products have been upgraded to kernel 2.6.32 recently. Integrating 
Batman would be much easier now. Unfortunately the SDK is only available 
on request since some time.

Regards,
Franz

Am 29.04.12 01:56, schrieb Mitar:
> Hi!
>
> Ubiquiti provides OpenWrt based SDK for their firmware. To my
> information, it contains some proprietary madwifi-based WiFi drivers
> with some older OpenWrt version. My question is how it would be
> possible to run Batman on top of their firmware (thus not latest
> OpenWrt). As Batman is in kernel, is is enough kernel-backwards
> compatible to be able to run also on older (2.6) kernel versions? For
> olsrd it is much simpler: you just install olsrd package and this is
> it.
>
>
> Mitar
>

Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] Batman with Ubiquiti SDK

[Guido Iribarren]

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 5:27 AM, fboehm <fboehm@aon.at> wrote:
> Hi Mitar,
>
> what Ubiquiti products are you using? Because they have the older
> 802.11a/b/g based product series and the newer 802.11n based with their
> proprietary Airmax wireless drivers. I am asking because the Airmax products
> have been upgraded to kernel 2.6.32 recently.

Indeed,

XM.v5.3# uname -a
Linux hostname 2.6.15-5.2 #1 Fri Jan 14 14:43:07 EET 2011 mips unknown

XM.v5.5# uname -a
Linux hostname 2.6.32.54 #1 Fri Apr 6 14:56:27 EEST 2012 mips unknown

(run on two nano loco m900, the latter with latest firmware)

Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] Batman with Ubiquiti SDK

[fboehm]

According to Ubiquiti support the SDK for AirOS v5.5 will be released in 
a few weeks.

Regards,
Franz


Am 29.04.12 16:29, schrieb Guido Iribarren:
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 5:27 AM, fboehm<fboehm@aon.at>  wrote:
>> Hi Mitar,
>>
>> what Ubiquiti products are you using? Because they have the older
>> 802.11a/b/g based product series and the newer 802.11n based with their
>> proprietary Airmax wireless drivers. I am asking because the Airmax products
>> have been upgraded to kernel 2.6.32 recently.
> Indeed,
>
> XM.v5.3# uname -a
> Linux hostname 2.6.15-5.2 #1 Fri Jan 14 14:43:07 EET 2011 mips unknown
>
> XM.v5.5# uname -a
> Linux hostname 2.6.32.54 #1 Fri Apr 6 14:56:27 EEST 2012 mips unknown
>
> (run on two nano loco m900, the latter with latest firmware)
>

Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] Batman with Ubiquiti SDK

[fboehm]

Hi,

I just wanted to add the information that Ubiquiti Networks released SDK 
for AirOS v5.5. You can download it from ubnt.com --> support. So no 
longer "on request" like mentioned earlier.

Regards,
Franz

Am 30.04.12 18:28, schrieb fboehm:
> According to Ubiquiti support the SDK for AirOS v5.5 will be released 
> in a few weeks.
>
> Regards,
> Franz
>
>
> Am 29.04.12 16:29, schrieb Guido Iribarren:
>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 5:27 AM, fboehm<fboehm@aon.at>  wrote:
>>> Hi Mitar,
>>>
>>> what Ubiquiti products are you using? Because they have the older
>>> 802.11a/b/g based product series and the newer 802.11n based with their
>>> proprietary Airmax wireless drivers. I am asking because the Airmax 
>>> products
>>> have been upgraded to kernel 2.6.32 recently.
>> Indeed,
>>
>> XM.v5.3# uname -a
>> Linux hostname 2.6.15-5.2 #1 Fri Jan 14 14:43:07 EET 2011 mips unknown
>>
>> XM.v5.5# uname -a
>> Linux hostname 2.6.32.54 #1 Fri Apr 6 14:56:27 EEST 2012 mips unknown
>>
>> (run on two nano loco m900, the latter with latest firmware)
>>
>
>

Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] Batman with Ubiquiti SDK

[Mitar]

Hi!

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:27 AM, fboehm <fboehm@aon.at> wrote:
> what Ubiquiti products are you using?

Rocket, NanoBridges, Bullets. Probably we will use all types sooner or
later. :-)

> I am asking because the Airmax products
> have been upgraded to kernel 2.6.32 recently. Integrating Batman would be
> much easier now.

Great!

> Unfortunately the SDK is only available on request since
> some time.

I do not see this a problem. You request, you get, you distribute. GPL. :-)


Mitar

Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] Batman with Ubiquiti SDK

[Dan Denson]

I would be very interested in this, especially if the GUI is patched to do you can enable batman-adv on an interface from there.


I would point out that airos doesn't support ad-hoc mode in the GUI and doesn't do ad-hoc on airmax interfaces.


On Apr 30, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Mitar <mmitar@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:27 AM, fboehm <fboehm@aon.at> wrote:
>> what Ubiquiti products are you using?
> 
> Rocket, NanoBridges, Bullets. Probably we will use all types sooner or
> later. :-)
> 
>> I am asking because the Airmax products
>> have been upgraded to kernel 2.6.32 recently. Integrating Batman would be
>> much easier now.
> 
> Great!
> 
>> Unfortunately the SDK is only available on request since
>> some time.
> 
> I do not see this a problem. You request, you get, you distribute. GPL. :-)
> 
> 
> Mitar

Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] Batman with Ubiquiti SDK

[Mitar]

Hi!

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Dan Denson <dandenson@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would be very interested in this, especially if the GUI is patched to do you can enable batman-adv on an interface from there.

We will very probably just remove the whole GUI and have things
configured through image generation process.

> I would point out that airos doesn't support ad-hoc mode in the GUI and doesn't do ad-hoc on airmax interfaces.

We are using Ubuquiti equipment for backbone ptp links.


Mitar