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From: Satya Durga Srinivasu Prabhala <quic_satyap@quicinc.com>
To: 'Yonghong Song' <yhs@fb.com>,
	'Alexei Starovoitov' <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: "'Toke Høiland-Jørgensen'" <toke@redhat.com>,
	'bpf' <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'Alexei Starovoitov'" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"'Andrii Nakryiko'" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"'Daniel Borkmann'" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"'Joanne Koong'" <joannelkoong@gmail.com>,
	"'Jesper Dangaard Brouer'" <brouer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bpf: fix rq lock recursion issue
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 23:56:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <002601d88797$8699d6b0$93cd8410$@quicinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <621b35ac-5c93-9a6d-eaf0-62cceb52cf34@fb.com>


On 6/13/22 11:09 PM, Yonghong Song wrote:
>
>
> On 6/13/22 6:10 PM, Satya Durga Srinivasu Prabhala wrote:
>>
>> On 6/13/22 2:49 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 2:35 PM Satya Durga Srinivasu Prabhala
>>> <quic_satyap@quicinc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 6/13/22 2:01 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>>>> is doesn't solve anything.
>>>>> Please provide a reproducer.
>>>> I'm trying to find an easy way to repro the issue, so far, 
>>>> unsuccessful.
>>>>
>>>>> iirc the task's affinity change can race even with preemption 
>>>>> disabled
>>>>> on this cpu. Why would s/migrate/preemption/ address the deadlock ?
>>>> I don't think task's affinity change races with preemption 
>>>> disabled/enabled.
>>>>
>>>> Switching to preemption disable/enable calls helps as it's just simple
>>>> counter increment and decrement with a barrier, but with migrate
>>>> disable/enable when task's affinity changes, we run into recursive bug
>>>> due to rq lock.
>>> As Yonghong already explained, replacing migrate_disable
>>> with preempt_disable around bpf prog invocation is not an option.
>>
>> If I understand correctly, Yonghong mentioned that replacing migrate_
>> with preempt_ won't work for RT Kernels and migrate_ APIs were 
>> introduced
>> for RT Kernels is what he was pointing to. I went back and cross checked
>> on 5.10 LTS Kernel, I see that the migrate_ calls end up just calling 
>> into
>> preemt_ calls [1]. So far non-RT kernels, sticking to preemt_ calls 
>> should
>> still work. Please let me know if I missed anything.
>
> Yes, old kernel migrate_disable/enable() implementation with
> simply preempt_disable/enable() are transitional. You can check
> 5.12 kernel migrate_disable/enable() implementation. Note that
> your patch, if accepted, will apply to the latest kernel. So we
> cannot simply replace migrate_disable() with prempt_disable(),
> which won't work for RT kernel.

Thanks for getting back and apologies for the delay. I understand that
we may break RT kernels with this patch. So, I was proposing to stick to
migrate_disable/enable() calls on RT Kernels and use preempt_disable/enable()
in case of non-RT Kernel. Which warrants change in scheduler, will push 
patch and try get feedback from Scheduler experts.

While I'm here I would like to cross check with you xperts on ideas to 
reproduce the issue easily and consistently. Your inputs will immensely help to 
debug issue further.
>
>>
>> [1]
>> https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/common/+/refs/heads/android12-5.10/include/linux/preempt.h#335 
>>


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-24  6:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-13  2:52 [PATCH] bpf: fix rq lock recursion issue Satya Durga Srinivasu Prabhala
2022-06-13  9:22 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-06-13 16:17   ` Satya Durga Srinivasu Prabhala
2022-06-13 16:35   ` Yonghong Song
2022-06-13 17:47     ` Satya Durga Srinivasu Prabhala
2022-06-13 21:01       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-06-13 21:35         ` Satya Durga Srinivasu Prabhala
2022-06-13 21:49           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-06-14  1:10             ` Satya Durga Srinivasu Prabhala
2022-06-14  6:09               ` Yonghong Song
2022-06-24  6:56                 ` Satya Durga Srinivasu Prabhala [this message]
2022-06-24 16:46                   ` Alexei Starovoitov

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