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From: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
To: Daniel Xu <dxu@dxuuu.xyz>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo.bianconi@redhat.com>,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	"bpf@vger.kernel.org" <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC/RFT v2 0/3] Introduce GRO support to cpumap codebase
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:06:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <012d8975-13a4-4056-a6bf-f9140878cbdb@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yzda66wro5twmzpmjoxvy4si5zvkehlmgtpi6brheek3sj73tj@o7kd6nurr3o6>

From: Daniel Xu <dxu@dxuuu.xyz>
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:41:27 -0700

> On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 12:06:29PM GMT, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
>> From: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
>> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 11:38:11 +0100
>>
>>> From: Daniel Xu <dxu@dxuuu.xyz>
>>> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2024 13:51:08 -0800
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2024, at 8:42 AM, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
>>>>> From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 16:51:57 -0800
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 12:01:16 +0100 Alexander Lobakin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> @ Jakub,  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Context? What doesn't work and why?  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My tests show the same perf as on Lorenzo's series, but I test with UDP
>>>>>>> trafficgen. Daniel tests TCP and the results are much worse than with
>>>>>>> Lorenzo's implementation.
>>>>>>> I suspect this is related to that how NAPI performs flushes / decides
>>>>>>> whether to repoll again or exit vs how kthread does that (even though I
>>>>>>> also try to flush only every 64 frames or when the ring is empty). Or
>>>>>>> maybe to that part of the kthread happens in process context outside any
>>>>>>> softirq, while when using NAPI, the whole loop is inside RX softirq.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jesper said that he'd like to see cpumap still using own kthread, so
>>>>>>> that its priority can be boosted separately from the backlog. That's why
>>>>>>> we asked you whether it would be fine to have cpumap as threaded NAPI in
>>>>>>> regards to all this :D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Certainly not without a clear understanding what the problem with 
>>>>>> a kthread is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, sure thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bad thing's that I can't reproduce Daniel's problem >_< Previously, I
>>>>> was testing with the UDP trafficgen and got up to 80% improvement over
>>>>> the baseline. Now I tested TCP and got up to 70% improvement, no
>>>>> regressions whatsoever =\
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know where this regression on Daniel's setup comes from. Is it
>>>>> multi-thread or single-thread test? 
>>>>
>>>> 8 threads with 16 flows over them (-T8 -F16)
>>>>
>>>>> What app do you use: iperf, netperf,
>>>>> neper, Microsoft's app (forgot the name)?
>>>>
>>>> neper, tcp_stream.
>>>
>>> Let me recheck with neper -T8 -F16, I'll post my results soon.
>>
>> kernel     direct T1    direct T8F16    cpumap    cpumap T8F16
>> clean      28           51              13        9               Gbps
>> GRO        28           51              26        18              Gbps
>>
>> 100% gain, no regressions =\
>>
>> My XDP prog is simple (upstream xdp-tools repo with no changes):
>>
>> numactl -N 0 xdp-tools/xdp-bench/xdp-bench redirect-cpu -c 23 -s -p
>> no-touch ens802f0np0
>>
>> IOW it simply redirects everything to CPU 23 (same NUMA node) from any
>> Rx queue without looking into headers or packet.
>> Do you test with more sophisticated XDP prog?
> 
> Great reminder... my prog is a bit more sophisticated. I forgot we were
> doing latency tracking by inserting a timestamp into frame metadata. But
> not clearing it after it was read on remote CPU, which disables GRO. So
> previous test was paying the penalty of fixed GRO overhead without
> getting any packet merges.
> 
> Once I fixed up prog to reset metadata pointer I could see the wins.
> Went from 21621.126 Mbps -> 25546.47 Mbps for a ~18% win in tput. No
> latency changes.
> 
> Sorry about the churn.

No problem, crap happens sometimes :)

Let me send my implementation on Monday-Wednesday. I'll include my UDP
and TCP test results, as well as yours (+18%).

BTW would be great if you could give me a Tested-by tag, as I assume the
tests were fine and it works for you?

Thanks,
Olek

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-06 15:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-16 10:13 [RFC/RFT v2 0/3] Introduce GRO support to cpumap codebase Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-09-16 10:13 ` [RFC/RFT v2 1/3] net: Add napi_init_for_gro routine Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-09-16 10:13 ` [RFC/RFT v2 2/3] net: add napi_threaded_poll to netdevice.h Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-09-16 10:13 ` [RFC/RFT v2 3/3] bpf: cpumap: Add gro support Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-09-16 15:10 ` [RFC/RFT v2 0/3] Introduce GRO support to cpumap codebase Alexander Lobakin
2024-10-08 22:39 ` Daniel Xu
2024-10-09 10:46   ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-10-09 12:27     ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-10-09 12:47       ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-10-09 12:50         ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-10-22 15:51           ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-11-12 17:43             ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-11-13 23:39               ` Daniel Xu
2024-11-23  0:10                 ` Daniel Xu
2024-11-25 15:12                   ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-11-25 17:03                     ` Daniel Xu
2024-11-25 18:50                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-11-25 21:53                       ` Daniel Xu
2024-11-25 22:19                         ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-11-25 22:56                     ` Daniel Xu
2024-11-26 10:36                       ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-11-26 17:02                         ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-11-26 17:12                           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-11-28 10:41                             ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-11-28 10:56                               ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-11-28 10:57                                 ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-12-02 22:47                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-03 11:01                           ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-12-04  0:51                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-04 16:42                               ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-12-04 21:51                                 ` Daniel Xu
2024-12-05 10:38                                   ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-12-05 11:06                                     ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-12-06  0:41                                       ` Daniel Xu
2024-12-06 15:06                                         ` Alexander Lobakin [this message]
2024-12-06 23:36                                           ` Daniel Xu

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