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From: Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>
To: "Maxim Mikityanskiy" <maximmi@nvidia.com>,
	"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
	"Lorenz Bauer" <lmb@cloudflare.com>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>
Cc: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>, Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>,
	Florent Revest <revest@chromium.org>,
	Joe Stringer <joe@cilium.io>, Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
	Networking <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	<clang-built-linux@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 09/10] bpf: Add a helper to issue timestamp cookies in XDP
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 19:10:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <103c5154-cc29-a5ab-3c30-587fc0fbeae2@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1901a631-25c0-158d-b37f-df6d23d8e8ab@nvidia.com>



On 11/1/21 4:14 AM, Maxim Mikityanskiy wrote:
> On 2021-10-20 19:16, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>> Lorenz Bauer <lmb@cloudflare.com> writes:
>>
>>>> +bool cookie_init_timestamp_raw(struct tcphdr *th, __be32 *tsval, 
>>>> __be32 *tsecr)
>>>
>>> I'm probably missing context, Is there something in this function that
>>> means you can't implement it in BPF?
>>
>> I was about to reply with some other comments but upon closer inspection
>> I ended up at the same conclusion: this helper doesn't seem to be needed
>> at all?
> 
> After trying to put this code into BPF (replacing the underlying 
> ktime_get_ns with ktime_get_mono_fast_ns), I experienced issues with 
> passing the verifier.
> 
> In addition to comparing ptr to end, I had to add checks that compare 
> ptr to data_end, because the verifier can't deduce that end <= data_end. 
> More branches will add a certain slowdown (not measured).
> 
> A more serious issue is the overall program complexity. Even though the 
> loop over the TCP options has an upper bound, and the pointer advances 
> by at least one byte every iteration, I had to limit the total number of 
> iterations artificially. The maximum number of iterations that makes the 
> verifier happy is 10. With more iterations, I have the following error:
> 
> BPF program is too large. Processed 1000001 insn
> 
>                         processed 1000001 insns (limit 1000000) 
> max_states_per_insn 29 total_states 35489 peak_states 596 mark_read 45
> 
> I assume that BPF_COMPLEXITY_LIMIT_INSNS (1 million) is the accumulated 
> amount of instructions that the verifier can process in all branches, is 
> that right? It doesn't look realistic that my program can run 1 million 
> instructions in a single run, but it might be that if you take all 
> possible flows and add up the instructions from these flows, it will 
> exceed 1 million.
> 
> The limitation of maximum 10 TCP options might be not enough, given that 
> valid packets are permitted to include more than 10 NOPs. An alternative 
> of using bpf_load_hdr_opt and calling it three times doesn't look good 
> either, because it will be about three times slower than going over the 
> options once. So maybe having a helper for that is better than trying to 
> fit it into BPF?
> 
> One more interesting fact is the time that it takes for the verifier to 
> check my program. If it's limited to 10 iterations, it does it pretty 
> fast, but if I try to increase the number to 11 iterations, it takes 
> several minutes for the verifier to reach 1 million instructions and 
> print the error then. I also tried grouping the NOPs in an inner loop to 
> count only 10 real options, and the verifier has been running for a few 
> hours without any response. Is it normal? 

Maxim, this may expose a verifier bug. Do you have a reproducer I can 
access? I would like to debug this to see what is the root case. Thanks!

> Commit c04c0d2b968a ("bpf: 
> increase complexity limit and maximum program size") says it shouldn't 
> take more than one second in any case.
> 
> Thanks,
> Max

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-03  2:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-19 14:46 [PATCH bpf-next 00/10] New BPF helpers to accelerate synproxy Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-10-19 14:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next 01/10] bpf: Use ipv6_only_sock in bpf_tcp_gen_syncookie Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-10-19 14:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next 02/10] bpf: Support dual-stack sockets in bpf_tcp_check_syncookie Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-10-19 14:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next 03/10] bpf: Use EOPNOTSUPP " Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-10-19 14:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next 04/10] bpf: Make errors of bpf_tcp_check_syncookie distinguishable Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-10-20  3:28   ` John Fastabend
2021-10-20 13:16     ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-10-20 15:26       ` Lorenz Bauer
2021-10-19 14:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next 05/10] bpf: Fix documentation of th_len in bpf_tcp_{gen,check}_syncookie Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-10-19 14:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next 06/10] bpf: Expose struct nf_conn to BPF Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-10-19 14:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next 07/10] bpf: Add helpers to query conntrack info Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-10-20  3:56   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2021-10-20  9:28     ` Florian Westphal
2021-10-20  9:48       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-20  9:58         ` Florian Westphal
2021-10-20 12:21           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-20 12:44             ` Florian Westphal
2021-10-20 20:54               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-20 22:55                 ` David Ahern
2021-10-21  7:36                 ` Florian Westphal
2021-10-20 13:18     ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-10-20 19:17       ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2021-10-20  9:46   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-19 14:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next 08/10] bpf: Add helpers to issue and check SYN cookies in XDP Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-10-19 14:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next 09/10] bpf: Add a helper to issue timestamp " Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-10-19 16:45   ` Eric Dumazet
2021-10-20 13:16     ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-10-20 15:56   ` Lorenz Bauer
2021-10-20 16:16     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-22 16:56       ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-10-27  8:34         ` Lorenz Bauer
2021-11-01 11:14       ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-11-03  2:10         ` Yonghong Song [this message]
2021-11-03 14:02           ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-11-09  7:11             ` Yonghong Song
2021-11-25 14:34               ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-11-26  5:43                 ` Yonghong Song
2021-11-26 16:50                   ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-11-26 17:07                     ` Yonghong Song
2021-11-29 17:51                       ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-12-01  6:39                         ` Yonghong Song
2021-12-01 18:06                           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-19 14:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next 10/10] bpf: Add sample for raw syncookie helpers Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-10-20 18:01   ` Joe Stringer
2021-10-21 17:19     ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-10-21  1:06   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-10-21 17:31     ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2021-10-21 18:50       ` Alexei Starovoitov

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