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From: Hou Tao <houtao1@huawei.com>
To: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	"Thomas Weißschuh" <linux@weissschuh.net>
Cc: "Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Kunwu Chan" <kunwu.chan@linux.dev>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	"Eddy Z" <eddyz87@gmail.com>, "Song Liu" <song@kernel.org>,
	"Yonghong Song" <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"KP Singh" <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	"Stanislav Fomichev" <sdf@fomichev.me>,
	"Hao Luo" <haoluo@google.com>, "Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	clrkwllms@kernel.org, "Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	syzbot+b506de56cbbb63148c33@syzkaller.appspotmail.com,
	"Thomas Weißschuh" <thomas.weissschuh@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bpf: Convert lpm_trie::lock to 'raw_spinlock_t'
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 09:24:49 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10d39b66-2be9-c023-bffe-ffae1de4ea41@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQJBGKioLA0JuyCQdD-jRKn2bpb7A7r6Yo4drBb9G1tvbg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On 11/17/2024 12:42 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 8:15 AM Thomas Weißschuh <linux@weissschuh.net> wrote:
>> On 2024-11-16 08:01:49-0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 1:21 AM Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
>>> <bigeasy@linutronix.de> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-11-15 23:29:31 [+0100], Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>>>> IIRC, BPF has it's own allocator which can be used everywhere.
>>>> Thomas Weißschuh made something. It appears to work. Need to take a
>>>> closer look.
>>> Any more details?
>>> bpf_mem_alloc is a stop gap.
>> It is indeed using bpf_mem_alloc.
>> It is a fairly straightforward conversion, using one cache for
>> intermediate and one for non-intermediate nodes.
> Sounds like you're proposing to allocate two lpm specific bpf_ma-s ?
> Just use bpf_global_ma.
> More ma-s means more memory pinned in bpf specific freelists.
> That's the main reason to teach slub and page_alloc about bpf requirements.
> All memory should be shared by all subsystems.
> Custom memory pools / freelists, whether it's bpf, networking
> or whatever else, is a pain point for somebody.
> The kernel needs to be optimal for all use cases.

I have been working on it since last week [1] and have already written a
patch (a patch in a patch set) for it. In my patch, these two allocators
will be merged if they are mergable and now the merge is decided by the
return value of kmalloc_size_roundup(). Also considering about using
bpf_global_ma instead, but the biggest problem for bpf_global_ma is the
memory accounting. The allocated memory will be accounted under root
memory cgroup instead of the memory cgroup of users.

[1]:
https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/e14d8882-4760-7c9c-0cfc-db04eda494ee@huaweicloud.com/
>
>> I'll try to send it early next week.
> Looking forward.
>
>>> As Vlastimil Babka suggested long ago:
>>> https://lwn.net/Articles/974138/
>>> "...next on the target list is the special allocator used by the BPF
>>> subsystem. This allocator is intended to succeed in any calling
>>> context, including in non-maskable interrupts (NMIs). BPF maintainer
>>> Alexei Starovoitov is evidently in favor of this removal if SLUB is
>>> able to handle the same use cases..."
>>>
>>> Here is the first step:
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20241116014854.55141-1-alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com/
>
> .


      reply	other threads:[~2024-11-17  1:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-08  6:32 [PATCH] bpf: Convert lpm_trie::lock to 'raw_spinlock_t' Kunwu Chan
2024-11-08 20:22 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-11-09  2:46   ` Hou Tao
2024-11-10  0:04     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-11-10  2:08       ` Hou Tao
2024-11-14 10:09         ` Sebastian Sewior
2024-11-12 15:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-11-14  2:43   ` Kunwu Chan
2024-11-15 22:29     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-11-16  9:21       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-16 16:01         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-11-16 16:15           ` Thomas Weißschuh
2024-11-16 16:42             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-11-17  1:24               ` Hou Tao [this message]

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