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From: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>
To: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
Cc: "Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	"Maciej Fijalkowski" <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>,
	"Larysa Zaremba" <larysa.zaremba@intel.com>,
	"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
	"Song Liu" <song@kernel.org>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v1 1/2] xdp: recycle Page Pool backed skbs built from XDP frames
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 14:27:13 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1cea3621-8f5d-ba95-1b0b-e245ce770abf@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e8a9346-37f4-7c5d-f1d0-cbba3de805db@intel.com>

On 2023/3/8 2:14, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
> From: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>
> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 10:50:34 +0800
> 
>> On 2023/3/6 19:58, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
>>> From: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 09:09:31 +0800
> 
> [...]
> 
>>> Ah, from that perspective. Yes, you're probably right, but would need to
>>> be tested anyway. I don't see any open problems with the PP recycling
>>> right now on the lists, but someone may try to change it one day.
>>> Anyway, this flag is only to do a quick test. We do have
>>> sk_buff::pfmemalloc, but this flag doesn't mean every page from this skb
>>> was pfmemalloced.
>>
>> The point seems to be that sk_buff::pfmemalloc allow false positive, which
>> means skb->pfmemalloc can be set to true while every page from this skb is
>> not pfmemalloced as you mentioned.
>>
>> While skb->pp_recycle can't allow false positive, if that happens, reference
>> counting of the page will not be handled properly if pp and non-pp skb shares
>> the page as the wireless adapter does.
> 
> You mean false-positives in both directions? Because if ->pp_recycle is
> set, the stack can still free non-PP pages. In the opposite case, I mean
> when ->pp_recycle is false and an skb page belongs to a page_pool, yes,
> there'll be issues.

That may depends on what is a PP pages and what is a non-PP pages, it seems
hard to answer now.

For a skb with ->pp_recycle being true and its frag page with page->pp_magic
being PP_SIGNATURE, when calling skb_clone()/pskb_expand_head() or
skb_try_coalesce(), we may call __skb_frag_ref() for the frag page, which
mean a page with page->pp_magic being PP_SIGNATURE can be both PP page
and non-PP page at the same time. So it is important to set the ->pp_recycle
correctly, and it seems hard to get that right from past experience,that's
why a per page marker is suggested.


> But I think the deal is to propagate the flag when you want to attach a
> PP-backed page to the skb? I mean, if someone decides to mix pages with
> different memory models, it's his responsibility to make sure everything
> is fine, because it's not a common/intended way. Isn't it?
> 
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, I am not sure checking ::pp_magic is correct when a
>>>>>> page will be passing between different subsystem and back to
>>>>>> the network stack eventually, checking ::pp_magic may not be
>>>>>> correct if this happens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another way is to use the bottom two bits in bv_page, see:
>>>>>> https://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg874099.html
> 
> This one is interesting actually. We'd only need one bit -- which is
> 100% free and available in case of page pointers.
> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>  	/* Allow SKB to reuse area used by xdp_frame */
>>>>>>>>>  	xdp_scrub_frame(xdpf);
> 
> [...]
> 
> Thanks,
> Olek
> 
> .
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-08  6:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-01 16:03 [PATCH bpf-next v1 0/2] xdp: recycle Page Pool backed skbs built from XDP frames Alexander Lobakin
2023-03-01 16:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 1/2] " Alexander Lobakin
2023-03-01 19:08   ` kernel test robot
2023-03-01 19:18   ` kernel test robot
2023-03-02  2:30   ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-03-03 10:31     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-03-03 11:22     ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-03-03 12:44       ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-03-03 13:26         ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-03-06  1:09           ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-03-06 11:58             ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-03-07  2:50               ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-03-07 18:14                 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-03-08  6:27                   ` Yunsheng Lin [this message]
2023-03-09 16:27                     ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-03-01 16:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 2/2] xdp: remove unused {__,}xdp_release_frame() Alexander Lobakin
2023-03-03 10:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 0/2] xdp: recycle Page Pool backed skbs built from XDP frames Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-03-03 11:31   ` Alexander Lobakin

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