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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
To: Edward Cree <ecree.xilinx@gmail.com>
Cc: brouer@redhat.com, Ivan Babrou <ivan@cloudflare.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@cloudflare.com,
	Martin Habets <habetsm.xilinx@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] sfc: reduce the number of requested xdp ev queues
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:45:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201216094524.0c6e521c@carbon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <205ba636-f180-3003-a41c-828e1fe1a13b@gmail.com>

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 18:49:55 +0000
Edward Cree <ecree.xilinx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 15/12/2020 09:43, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:29:06 -0800
> > Ivan Babrou <ivan@cloudflare.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> Without this change the driver tries to allocate too many queues,
> >> breaching the number of available msi-x interrupts on machines
> >> with many logical cpus and default adapter settings:
> >>
> >> Insufficient resources for 12 XDP event queues (24 other channels, max 32)
> >>
> >> Which in turn triggers EINVAL on XDP processing:
> >>
> >> sfc 0000:86:00.0 ext0: XDP TX failed (-22)  
> > 
> > I have a similar QA report with XDP_REDIRECT:
> >   sfc 0000:05:00.0 ens1f0np0: XDP redirect failed (-22)
> > 
> > Here we are back to the issue we discussed with ixgbe, that NIC / msi-x
> > interrupts hardware resources are not enough on machines with many
> > logical cpus.
> > 
> > After this fix, what will happen if (cpu >= efx->xdp_tx_queue_count) ?  
>
> Same as happened before: the "failed -22".  But this fix will make that
>  less likely to happen, because it ties more TXQs to each EVQ, and it's
>  the EVQs that are in short supply.
>

So, what I hear is that this fix is just pampering over the real issue.

I suggest that you/we detect the situation, and have a code path that
will take a lock (per 16 packets bulk) and solve the issue.

If you care about maximum performance you can implement this via
changing the ndo_xdp_xmit pointer to the fallback function when needed,
to avoid having a to check for the fallback mode in the fast-path.

>
> (Strictly speaking, I believe the limitation is a software one, that
>  comes from the driver's channel structures having been designed a
>  decade ago when 32 cpus ought to be enough for anybody... AFAIR the
>  hardware is capable of giving us something like 1024 evqs if we ask
>  for them, it just might not have that many msi-x vectors for us.)
> Anyway, the patch looks correct, so
> Acked-by: Edward Cree <ecree.xilinx@gmail.com>

-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer


  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-16  8:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-15  1:29 [PATCH net-next] sfc: reduce the number of requested xdp ev queues Ivan Babrou
2020-12-15  9:43 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-12-15 18:49   ` Edward Cree
2020-12-16  8:45     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2020-12-16 23:12       ` Edward Cree
2020-12-16  8:18 ` Martin Habets
2020-12-17 18:14 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-01-19 23:43   ` Ivan Babrou
2021-01-20  0:31     ` Jakub Kicinski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-01-20 21:27 Ivan Babrou
2021-01-21 16:10 ` Edward Cree
2021-01-21 17:11 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-01-21 17:14   ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2021-01-23  3:30 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2021-02-06 10:43 ` Martin Habets

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