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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>,
	Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@chromium.org>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>, Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] ftrace: Add support to keep some functions out of ftrace
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 07:26:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220722072608.17ef543f@rorschach.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220722110811.124515-1-jolsa@kernel.org>

On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 13:08:11 +0200
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org> wrote:

> hi,
> we recently hit bug where ftrace update raced with bpf_dispatcher_update
> that calls directly bpf_arch_text_poke [1].
> 
> The bpf_dispatcher_update creates special trampoline and attaches it to
> designated bpf_dispatcher_xdp_func function, which is run for xdp bpf
> programs from several places.
> 
> After discussion with Alexei we'd rather keep this code update out of
> ftrace, because it's already slow and had troubles with CI because of
> that.
> 
> This patch is presenting the idea to allow some functions not to be
> managed by ftrace by marking them with NOFTRACE_SYMBOL macro and
> such symbols will not be added to ftrace_pages on the kernel start.

NACK on any generic way to hide mcount/fentry functions from ftrace.

There's a lot of infrastructure to see what functions are being
modified, as the user should know. (See tracefs/enabled_functions).

There's no need for a generic way to hide functions. Once that happens,
it will grow and then it will be more confusing to why some functions are
traced while others are not.

> 
> Please note it's RFC so I did not bother with some fast search for
> is_noftrace_function function.
> 
> Perhaps we could use existing NOKPROBE_SYMBOL for this? but I'm not
> sure you can (or want) to run function trace on such symbols.

I trace those functions all the time. Yes, I want to continue doing so.

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-22 11:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-22 11:08 [RFC] ftrace: Add support to keep some functions out of ftrace Jiri Olsa
2022-07-22 11:26 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2022-07-22 16:04   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-22 16:08     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-22 16:25       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-22 16:53         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-22 17:14           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-22 21:05         ` Jiri Olsa
2022-07-22 21:41           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-23  3:53             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-23  3:56               ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-25  7:00                 ` Jiri Olsa
2022-07-23 21:39             ` Jiri Olsa
2022-08-12 21:18               ` Jiri Olsa
2022-08-12 21:50                 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-08-13 19:02                 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-08-14 11:32                   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-08-14 15:22                   ` Jiri Olsa
2022-08-15  2:07                     ` Chen Zhongjin
2022-08-15  8:04                       ` Jiri Olsa
2022-08-15 11:01                         ` Björn Töpel
2022-08-15 11:29                           ` Jiri Olsa
2022-08-15 12:19                             ` Björn Töpel
2022-08-15 12:30                               ` Björn Töpel
2022-08-15  8:03                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-15  9:44                     ` Jiri Olsa
2022-08-15 12:37                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-15 14:25                         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-15 14:33                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-15 14:45                             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-15 15:02                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-15 15:17                                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-15 15:28                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-15 15:35                                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-15 15:44                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-08-15 15:53                                         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-15 16:13                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-08-15 15:48                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-16  6:56                                         ` Jiri Olsa
2022-08-17  9:29                                           ` Jiri Olsa
2022-08-17 16:57                                             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-17 19:39                                               ` Jiri Olsa
2022-08-15 15:41                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-15 15:49                                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-15 16:08                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-08-18 20:27                                       ` Jiri Olsa
2022-08-18 20:50                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-08-18 21:00                                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-18 21:05                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-08-18 21:32                                             ` Jiri Olsa
2022-08-19 11:45                                               ` Jiri Olsa
2022-08-23 17:23                                                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-26  8:00                                                   ` Jiri Olsa
2022-08-18 21:14                                           ` Jiri Olsa
2022-08-15 15:32                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-22 16:26       ` Jiri Olsa
2022-07-22 16:37         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-22 16:54           ` Alexei Starovoitov

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