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From: Shmulik Ladkani <shmulik@metanetworks.com>
To: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Paul Chaignon <paul@isovalent.com>,
	Shmulik Ladkani <shmulik.ladkani@gmail.com>,
	Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 bpf-next 1/3] bpf: Support setting variable-length tunnel options
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2022 18:51:09 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220902185109.0bc6ebee@blondie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220831113404.78e6f317@blondie>

> On Tue, 23 Aug 2022 00:59:01 -0700
> John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > + * long bpf_skb_set_var_tunnel_opt(struct sk_buff *skb, void *opt, u32 size, u32 len)
> > > + *	Description
> > > + *		Set tunnel options metadata for the packet associated to *skb*
> > > + *		to the variable length *len* bytes of option data contained in
> > > + *		the raw buffer *opt* sized *size*.
> > > + *
> > > + *		See also the description of the **bpf_skb_get_tunnel_opt**\ ()
> > > + *		helper for additional information.
> > > + *	Return
> > > + *		0 on success, or a negative error in case of failure.    
> > 
> > This API feels akward to me. Could you collapse this by using a dynamic pointer,
> > recently added? And drop the ptr_to_mem+const_size part at least? That seems
> > redundant with latest kernels.  
> 
> Revisiting this decision.
> 
> After following that path, seems to me that adding the newly proposed
> 'bpf_skb_set_tunnel_opt_dynptr' API creates awkwardness in user's bpf
> program.
> 
> Suppose user needs to hold a map of the options received on incoming
> traffic based on whatever 'bpf_skb_get_tunnel_opt' returns.
> 
> Then, when user needs to apply the options on the return traffic, we
> have the following two alternative APIs:
> 
> 
> option A: bpf_skb_set_var_tunnel_opt
> ------------------------------------
> 
> struct tun_opts {
>     __u8 data[MAX_OPT_SZ];
>     __u32 len;
> };
> BPF_MAP_TYPE_HASH opts_map; // __type(value, tun_opts)
> 
>   ...
> 
>   struct tun_opts *opts;
> 
>   opts = bpf_map_lookup_elem(&opts_map, &the_flow_key);
>   bpf_skb_set_var_tunnel_opt(skb, opts->data, sizeof(opts->data), opts->len);
> 
> 
> option B: bpf_skb_set_tunnel_opt_dynptr
> ---------------------------------------
> 
> struct tun_opts {
>     __u8 data[MAX_OPT_SZ];
> };
> BPF_MAP_TYPE_HASH opts_map;       // __type(value, tun_opts)
> BPF_MAP_TYPE_HASH opts_len_map;   // __type(value, __u32)
> 
>   ... 
> 
>   struct bpf_dynptr dptr;
>   struct tun_opts *opts;
>   __u32 *opts_len;
> 
>   opts = bpf_map_lookup_elem(&opts_map, &the_flow_key);
>   opts_len = bpf_map_lookup_elem(&opts_len_map, &the_flow_key);
> 
>   bpf_dynptr_from_mem(opts, sizeof(*opts), 0, &dptr);  // construct a dynptr from the raw option data
>   bpf_dynptr_trim(&dptr, opts_len);                    // trim it based on stored option len
>   bpf_skb_set_tunnel_opt_dynptr(skb, &dptr);
> 
> 
> IMO, the 2nd user program is less readable:
>  - need to store the received options length in a separate map
>  - 5 bpf function calls instead of 2
> 
> Despite the awkwardness of the 'bpf_skb_set_var_tunnel_opt' API (passing
> both constant size *and* dynamic len), it really creates more simple and
> readable ebpf programs.
> 
> WDYT?

John, Daniel, would appreciate your opinion re the prefered BPF API we
add to set var-length tunnel options. See the difference in bpf user
programs based on the 2 suggestions above.

Thanks,
Shmulik

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-09-02 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-22  5:21 [PATCH v3 bpf-next 0/3] bpf: Support setting variable-length tunnel options Shmulik Ladkani
2022-08-22  5:21 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 1/3] " Shmulik Ladkani
2022-08-23  7:59   ` John Fastabend
2022-08-23  9:47     ` Shmulik Ladkani
2022-08-31  8:34     ` Shmulik Ladkani
2022-08-31 19:07       ` Joanne Koong
2022-08-31 19:40         ` Shmulik Ladkani
2022-09-02 15:51       ` Shmulik Ladkani [this message]
2022-08-22  5:21 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 2/3] selftests/bpf: Simplify test_tunnel setup for allowing non-local tunnel traffic Shmulik Ladkani
2022-08-22  5:21 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 3/3] selftests/bpf: Add geneve with bpf_skb_set_var_tunnel_opt test-case to test_progs Shmulik Ladkani

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