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From: Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>
Cc: Ze Gao <zegao2021@gmail.com>, Yonghong Song <yhs@meta.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Song Liu <song@kernel.org>, Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kafai@fb.com,
	kpsingh@chromium.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, paulmck@kernel.org,
	songliubraving@fb.com, Ze Gao <zegao@tencent.com>
Subject: Re:
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 10:36:52 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230522103652.4c1680bb945cba22ccba6a79@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZGp+fW855gmWuh9W@krava>

On Sun, 21 May 2023 22:26:37 +0200
Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 11:10:16PM +0800, Ze Gao wrote:
> > > kprobe_multi/fprobe share the same set of attachments with fentry.
> > > Currently, fentry does not filter with !rcu_is_watching, maybe
> > > because this is an extreme corner case. Not sure whether it is
> > > worthwhile or not.
> > 
> > Agreed, it's rare, especially after Peter's patches which push narrow
> > down rcu eqs regions
> > in the idle path and reduce the chance of any traceable functions
> > happening in between.
> > 
> > However, from RCU's perspective, we ought to check if rcu_is_watching
> > theoretically
> > when there's a chance our code will run in the idle path and also we
> > need rcu to be alive,
> > And also we cannot simply make assumptions for any future changes in
> > the idle path.
> > You know, just like what was hit in the thread.
> > 
> > > Maybe if you can give a concrete example (e.g., attachment point)
> > > with current code base to show what the issue you encountered and
> > > it will make it easier to judge whether adding !rcu_is_watching()
> > > is necessary or not.
> > 
> > I can reproduce likely warnings on v6.1.18 where arch_cpu_idle is
> > traceable but not on the latest version
> > so far. But as I state above, in theory we need it. So here is a
> > gentle ping :) .
> 
> hum, this change [1] added rcu_is_watching check to ftrace_test_recursion_trylock,
> which we use in fprobe_handler and is coming to fprobe_exit_handler in [2]
> 
> I might be missing something, but it seems like we don't need another
> rcu_is_watching call on kprobe_multi level

Good point! OK, then it seems we don't need it. The rethook continues to
use the rcu_is_watching() because it is also used from kprobes, but the
kprobe_multi doesn't need it.

Thank you,

> 
> jirka
> 
> 
> [1] d099dbfd3306 cpuidle: tracing: Warn about !rcu_is_watching()
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20230517034510.15639-4-zegao@tencent.com/


-- 
Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-22  1:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-15 20:36 [PATCH bpf-next 1/2] cpuidle/rcu: Making arch_cpu_idle and rcu_idle_exit noinstr Jiri Olsa
2022-05-15 20:36 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/2] selftests/bpf: Remove filter for unsafe functions in kprobe_multi test Jiri Olsa
2022-05-16  4:25 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/2] cpuidle/rcu: Making arch_cpu_idle and rcu_idle_exit noinstr Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-16 11:49   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-16 13:39     ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-17 10:13     ` Jiri Olsa
2022-05-18 16:21       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-19 11:33         ` Jiri Olsa
2022-05-19 13:54           ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-23 13:12             ` Jiri Olsa
2022-05-24 17:33               ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-17  2:39 ` kernel test robot
2022-05-17  2:54 ` Yonghong Song
2022-05-17  7:49   ` Jiri Olsa
2022-05-19  0:00     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2022-05-17  9:19 ` kernel test robot
2023-05-20  9:47 ` Ze Gao
2023-05-21  3:58   ` Yonghong Song
2023-05-21 15:10     ` Re: Ze Gao
2023-05-21 20:26       ` Re: Jiri Olsa
2023-05-22  1:36         ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2023-05-22  2:07         ` Re: Ze Gao
2023-05-23  4:38           ` Re: Yonghong Song
2023-05-23  5:30           ` Re: Masami Hiramatsu
2023-05-23  6:59             ` Re: Paul E. McKenney
2023-05-25  0:13               ` Re: Masami Hiramatsu
2023-05-23 14:10           ` kprobes and rcu_is_watching() Steven Rostedt
2023-05-24  3:51             ` Ze Gao
2023-05-21  8:08   ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-21 10:09     ` Re: Masami Hiramatsu
2023-05-21 14:19       ` Re: Ze Gao
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-04-24  0:40 Cong Wang
2025-04-24  0:59 ` Jiayuan Chen
2025-04-24  9:19   ` Re: Jiayuan Chen
2025-04-22  1:53 [PATCH bpf-next] bpf: Remove bpf_get_smp_processor_id_proto Alexei Starovoitov
2025-04-22  8:04 ` Feng Yang
2025-04-22 14:37   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-04-18  7:46 Shung-Hsi Yu
2025-04-18  7:49 ` Shung-Hsi Yu
2025-04-23 17:30 ` Re: patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2024-06-26  6:11 Totoro W
2024-06-26  7:09 ` Eduard Zingerman
2022-03-04  8:47 Re: Harald Hauge

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