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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
Cc: "Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Hao Luo" <haoluo@google.com>, "Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Lemon" <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>,
	"KP Singh" <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	"Maciej Fijalkowski" <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>,
	"Magnus Karlsson" <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Song Liu" <song@kernel.org>,
	"Stanislav Fomichev" <sdf@google.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Yonghong Song" <yonghong.song@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 1/2] net: Reference bpf_redirect_info via task_struct on PREEMPT_RT.
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 17:36:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240214163607.RjjT5bO_@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87le7ndo4z.fsf@toke.dk>

On 2024-02-14 17:08:44 [+0100], Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> > During testing I forgot a spot in egress and the test module. You could
> > argue that the warning is enough since it should pop up in testing and
> > not production because the code is always missed and not by chance (go
> > boom, send a report). I *think* I covered all spots, at least the test
> > suite didn't point anything out to me.
> 
> Well, I would prefer if we could make sure we covered everything and not
> have this odd failure mode where redirect just mysteriously stops
> working. At the very least, if we keep the check we should have a
> WARN_ON in there to make it really obvious that something needs to be
> fixed.

Agree.

> This brings me to another thing I was going to point out separately, but
> may as well mention it here: It would be good if we could keep the
> difference between the RT and !RT versions as small as possible to avoid
> having subtle bugs that only appear in one configuration.

Yes. I do so, too.

> I agree with Jesper that the concept of a stack-allocated "run context"
> for the XDP program makes sense in general (and I have some vague ideas
> about other things that may be useful to stick in there). So I'm
> wondering if it makes sense to do that even in the !RT case? We can't
> stick the pointer to it into 'current' when running in softirq, but we
> could change the per-cpu variable to just be a pointer that gets
> populated by xdp_storage_set()?

I *think* that it could be added to current. The assignment currently
allows nesting so that is not a problem. Only the outer most set/clear
would do something. If you run in softirq, you would hijack a random
task_struct. If the pointer is already assigned then the list and so one
must be empty because access is only allowed in BH-disabled sections.

However, using per-CPU for the pointer (instead of task_struct) would
have the advantage that it is always CPU/node local memory while the
random task_struct could have been allocated on a different NUMA node.

> I'm not really sure if this would be performance neutral (it's just
> moving around a few bits of memory, but we do gain an extra pointer
> deref), but it should be simple enough to benchmark.

My guess is that we remain with one per-CPU dereference and an
additional "add offset". That is why I kept the !RT bits as they are
before getting yelled at.

I could prepare something and run a specific test if you have one.

> -Toke

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-14 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-13 14:58 [PATCH RFC net-next 0/2] Use per-task storage for XDP-redirects on PREEMPT_RT Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-02-13 14:58 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 1/2] net: Reference bpf_redirect_info via task_struct " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-02-13 20:50   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-02-14 12:19     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-02-14 13:23       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-02-14 14:28         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-02-14 16:08           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-02-14 16:36             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2024-02-15 20:23               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-02-16 16:57                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-02-19 19:01                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-02-20  9:17                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-02-20 10:17                       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-02-20 10:42                         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-02-20 12:08                           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-02-20 12:57                             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-02-20 15:32                               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-02-22  9:22                                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-02-22 10:10                                   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-02-22 10:58                                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-02-20 12:10                           ` Dave Taht
2024-02-14 16:13   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-02-15  9:04     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-02-15 12:11       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-02-13 14:58 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 2/2] net: Move per-CPU flush-lists to bpf_xdp_storage " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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