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The term "legacy ID" was used during the > discussion but Christoph (if I remember right) pointed out that such > IDs are not deprecated per se. Hence "legacy" may not be the right > word since we use that word with legacy packet access instructions > that are deprecated. We decided to take further discussion to the > list, hence this email. >=20 > We need some term to distinguish them from BTF IDs, so another > alternative might be "non-BTF ID". Non-BTF ID is fine with me. Any objections? 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