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From: Askar Safin <safinaskar@gmail.com>
To: brauner@kernel.org
Cc: amir73il@gmail.com, arnd@arndb.de, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 11/70] ns: add active reference count
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2025 10:02:01 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251029070201.2327405-1-safinaskar@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251024-work-namespace-nstree-listns-v3-11-b6241981b72b@kernel.org>

Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>:
> Currently namespace file handles allow much broader access to namespaces
> than what is currently possible via (1)-(4). The reason is that

There is no any (4) here.


> On current kernels a namespace is visible to userspace in the
> following cases:
[...]
> (3) The namespace is a hierarchical namespace type and is the parent of
>     a single or multiple child namespaces.
[...]
> To handle this nicely we introduce an active reference count which
> tracks (1)-(3). This is easy to do as all of these things are already
[...]
> + * Inactive -> Active:
> + *   When walking a hierarchical namespace tree upwards and reopening
> + *   parent namespaces via NS_GET_PARENT that only exist because they
> + *   are a parent of an actively used namespace it is possible to
> + *   necrobump an inactive namespace back to the active state.

These quoted parts contradict to each other. You say "we introduce an
active reference count which tracks (1)-(3)", and (3) says "The namespace
is a hierarchical namespace type and is the parent of a single or multiple
child namespaces". I. e. active reference will count such parents. But then
in code you say:

> + * Inactive -> Active:
> + *   When walking a hierarchical namespace tree upwards and reopening
> + *   parent namespaces via NS_GET_PARENT that only exist because they
> + *   are a parent of an actively used namespace it is possible to
> + *   necrobump an inactive namespace back to the active state.

I. e. now you say that such parents are inactive and can become active.




-- 
Askar Safin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-29  7:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-24 10:52 [PATCH v3 00/70] nstree: listns() Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 01/70] libfs: allow to specify s_d_flags Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 02/70] nsfs: use inode_just_drop() Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 03/70] nsfs: raise DCACHE_DONTCACHE explicitly Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 04/70] pidfs: " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 05/70] nsfs: raise SB_I_NODEV and SB_I_NOEXEC Christian Brauner
2025-10-27 13:13   ` Jeff Layton
2025-10-28 15:35     ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 06/70] cgroup: add cgroup namespace to tree after owner is set Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 07/70] nstree: simplify return Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 08/70] ns: initialize ns_list_node for initial namespaces Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 09/70] ns: add __ns_ref_read() Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 10/70] ns: rename to exit_nsproxy_namespaces() Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 11/70] ns: add active reference count Christian Brauner
2025-10-27 16:36   ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-28 15:33     ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-28 10:30   ` Simon Horman
2025-10-28 15:32     ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-29  7:02   ` Askar Safin [this message]
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 12/70] ns: use anonymous struct to group list member Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 13/70] nstree: introduce a unified tree Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 14/70] nstree: allow lookup solely based on inode Christian Brauner
2025-10-27 13:48   ` Jeff Layton
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 15/70] nstree: assign fixed ids to the initial namespaces Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 16/70] ns: maintain list of owned namespaces Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 17/70] nstree: add listns() Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 14:06   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-28 15:20     ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-27 14:04   ` Jeff Layton
2025-10-28 15:39     ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-28 10:36   ` Simon Horman
2025-10-28 13:33     ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-29  7:52   ` Askar Safin
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 18/70] arch: hookup listns() system call Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 14:08   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 19/70] nsfs: update tools header Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 20/70] selftests/filesystems: remove CLONE_NEWPIDNS from setup_userns() helper Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 21/70] selftests/namespaces: first active reference count tests Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 22/70] selftests/namespaces: second " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 23/70] selftests/namespaces: third " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 24/70] selftests/namespaces: fourth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 25/70] selftests/namespaces: fifth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 26/70] selftests/namespaces: sixth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 27/70] selftests/namespaces: seventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 28/70] selftests/namespaces: eigth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 29/70] selftests/namespaces: ninth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 30/70] selftests/namespaces: tenth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 31/70] selftests/namespaces: eleventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 32/70] selftests/namespaces: twelth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 33/70] selftests/namespaces: thirteenth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 34/70] selftests/namespaces: fourteenth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 35/70] selftests/namespaces: fifteenth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 36/70] selftests/namespaces: add listns() wrapper Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 37/70] selftests/namespaces: first listns() test Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 38/70] selftests/namespaces: second " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 39/70] selftests/namespaces: third " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 40/70] selftests/namespaces: fourth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 41/70] selftests/namespaces: fifth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 42/70] selftests/namespaces: sixth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 43/70] selftests/namespaces: seventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 44/70] selftests/namespaces: eigth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 45/70] selftests/namespaces: ninth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 46/70] selftests/namespaces: first listns() permission test Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 47/70] selftests/namespaces: second " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 48/70] selftests/namespaces: third " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 49/70] selftests/namespaces: fourth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 50/70] selftests/namespaces: fifth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 51/70] selftests/namespaces: sixth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 52/70] selftests/namespaces: seventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 53/70] selftests/namespaces: first inactive namespace resurrection test Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 54/70] selftests/namespaces: second " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 55/70] selftests/namespaces: third " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 56/70] selftests/namespaces: fourth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 57/70] selftests/namespaces: fifth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 58/70] selftests/namespaces: sixth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 59/70] selftests/namespaces: seventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 60/70] selftests/namespaces: eigth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 61/70] selftests/namespaces: ninth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 62/70] selftests/namespaces: tenth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 63/70] selftests/namespaces: eleventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 64/70] selftests/namespaces: twelth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 65/70] selftests/namespace: first threaded active reference count test Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 66/70] selftests/namespace: second " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 67/70] selftests/namespace: third " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 68/70] selftests/namespace: commit_creds() active reference tests Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 69/70] selftests/namespace: add stress test Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 70/70] selftests/namespace: test listns() pagination Christian Brauner
2025-10-27 14:10 ` [PATCH v3 00/70] nstree: listns() Jeff Layton

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