From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/44] bpf: Verifier, remove some unusual uses of min_t() and max_t()
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2025 22:21:51 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251121222151.7056c4fa@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQKFPpzbcakNmq2RkYQvm1TsdgO73UNuoaa_F8SCm6suNw@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 13:40:36 -0800
Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2025 at 2:42 PM <david.laight.linux@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
> >
> > min_t() and max_t() are normally used to change the signedness
> > of a positive value to avoid a signed-v-unsigned compare warning.
> >
> > However they are used here to convert an unsigned 64bit pattern
> > to a signed to a 32/64bit signed number.
> > To avoid any confusion use plain min()/max() and explicitely cast
> > the u64 expression to the correct signed value.
> >
> > Use a simple max() for the max_pkt_offset calulation and delete the
> > comment about why the cast to u32 is safe.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
> > ---
> > kernel/bpf/verifier.c | 29 +++++++++++------------------
> > 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/bpf/verifier.c b/kernel/bpf/verifier.c
> > index ff40e5e65c43..22fa9769fbdb 100644
> > --- a/kernel/bpf/verifier.c
> > +++ b/kernel/bpf/verifier.c
> > @@ -2319,12 +2319,12 @@ static void __update_reg32_bounds(struct bpf_reg_state *reg)
> > struct tnum var32_off = tnum_subreg(reg->var_off);
> >
> > /* min signed is max(sign bit) | min(other bits) */
> > - reg->s32_min_value = max_t(s32, reg->s32_min_value,
> > - var32_off.value | (var32_off.mask & S32_MIN));
> > + reg->s32_min_value = max(reg->s32_min_value,
> > + (s32)(var32_off.value | (var32_off.mask & S32_MIN)));
> > /* max signed is min(sign bit) | max(other bits) */
> > - reg->s32_max_value = min_t(s32, reg->s32_max_value,
> > - var32_off.value | (var32_off.mask & S32_MAX));
> > - reg->u32_min_value = max_t(u32, reg->u32_min_value, (u32)var32_off.value);
> > + reg->s32_max_value = min(reg->s32_max_value,
> > + (s32)(var32_off.value | (var32_off.mask & S32_MAX)));
>
> Nack.
> This is plain ugly for no good reason.
> Leave the code as-is.
It is really horrid before.
From what i remember var32_off.value (and .mask) are both u64.
The pattern actually patches that used a few lines down the file.
I've been trying to build allmodconfig with the size test added to min_t()
and max_t().
The number of real (or potentially real) bugs I've found is stunning.
The only fix is to nuke min_t() and max_t() to they can't be used.
The basic problem is the people have used the type of the target not that
of the largest parameter.
The might be ok for ulong v uint (on 64bit), but there are plenty of places
where u16 and u8 are used - a lot are pretty much buggy.
Perhaps the worst ones I've found are with clamp_t(),
this is from 2/44:
- (raw_inode)->xtime = cpu_to_le32(clamp_t(int32_t, (ts).tv_sec, S32_MIN, S32_MAX)); \
+ (raw_inode)->xtime = cpu_to_le32(clamp((ts).tv_sec, S32_MIN, S32_MAX)); \
If also found clamp_t(u8, xxx, 0, 255).
There are just so many broken examples.
David
>
> pw-bot: cr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-21 22:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-19 22:40 [PATCH 00/44] Change a lot of min_t() that might mask high bits david.laight.linux
2025-11-19 22:41 ` [PATCH 06/44] bpf: Verifier, remove some unusual uses of min_t() and max_t() david.laight.linux
2025-11-21 21:40 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-11-21 22:21 ` David Laight [this message]
2025-11-23 16:39 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-11-23 18:07 ` David Laight
2025-11-23 19:20 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-11-23 23:03 ` David Laight
2025-11-19 22:41 ` [PATCH 34/44] bpf: use min() instead of min_t() david.laight.linux
2025-11-19 22:41 ` [PATCH 35/44] " david.laight.linux
2025-11-19 22:41 ` [PATCH 41/44] net/core: Change loop conditions so min() can be used david.laight.linux
2025-11-20 1:47 ` [PATCH 00/44] Change a lot of min_t() that might mask high bits Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-20 9:38 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-20 14:52 ` (subset) " Jens Axboe
2025-11-24 9:49 ` Herbert Xu
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20251121222151.7056c4fa@pumpkin \
--to=david.laight.linux@gmail.com \
--cc=alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com \
--cc=andrii@kernel.org \
--cc=ast@kernel.org \
--cc=bpf@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=daniel@iogearbox.net \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox