From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Samuel Wu <wusamuel@google.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@kernel.org>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
kernel-team@android.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] Support BPF traversal of wakeup sources
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2026 06:06:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2026040236-kiln-carat-bb6d@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG2KctokEVVuhrs6tYuMjFF4ALR=tX80iZHrt4bhVvEKyoHzRQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Apr 01, 2026 at 12:07:12PM -0700, Samuel Wu wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2026 at 2:15 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman
> <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 31, 2026 at 08:34:09AM -0700, Samuel Wu wrote:
> > > This patchset adds requisite kfuncs for BPF programs to safely traverse
> > > wakeup_sources, and puts a config flag around the sysfs interface.
> > >
> > > Currently, a traversal of wakeup sources require going through
> > > /sys/class/wakeup/* or /d/wakeup_sources/*. The repeated syscalls to query
> > > sysfs is inefficient, as there can be hundreds of wakeup_sources, with each
> > > wakeup source also having multiple attributes. debugfs is unstable and
> > > insecure.
> >
> > Describe "inefficient" please?
>
> Ack; I’ll provide a more detailed breakdown in the v4 cover letter. To
> summarize: the "inefficiency" isn't just the number of sources (150),
> but the fact that each source has 10 attributes. We are looking at
> 1,500+ sysfs nodes to get a full snapshot of the system.
Wait, no, something is wrong here. You should NEVER be wanting to
combine multiple sysfs files at the same time into a "snapshot" of the
system because by virtue of how this works, it's going to change while
you are actually traversing all of those files!
Why are you trying to read 1500+ sysfs files at once, and what are you
doing with that information? And if you really need it "all at once",
why can't we provide it for you in a sane manner, instead of being
forced to either walk the whole sysfs tree, or rely on a bpf script?
So, what problem are you trying to solve that looking at all of these
files solves for you at the moment?
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-02 4:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-31 15:34 [PATCH v3 0/2] Support BPF traversal of wakeup sources Samuel Wu
2026-03-31 15:34 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] PM: wakeup: Add kfuncs to traverse over wakeup_sources Samuel Wu
2026-04-01 9:11 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-04-01 14:22 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-03-31 15:34 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] selftests/bpf: Add tests for wakeup_sources kfuncs Samuel Wu
2026-04-01 9:15 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] Support BPF traversal of wakeup sources Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-04-01 19:07 ` Samuel Wu
2026-04-02 4:06 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2026-04-02 19:37 ` Samuel Wu
2026-04-03 10:04 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-04-03 16:28 ` Samuel Wu
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