From: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
Mykyta Yatsenko <mykyta.yatsenko5@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, andrii@kernel.org,
daniel@iogearbox.net, kafai@meta.com, kernel-team@meta.com,
memxor@gmail.com, Mykyta Yatsenko <yatsenko@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v3 6/7] bpf: task work scheduling kfuncs
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2025 21:05:47 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <205c8ce8829a93bd1f371ac9f86d86c3ef5c0639.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzYSc_vGz42vpYzgAGmT15Lx77BduV6c9AJurQw5PSe63g@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, 2025-09-08 at 23:33 -0400, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 9:13 AM Mykyta Yatsenko
> <mykyta.yatsenko5@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 9/6/25 21:22, Eduard Zingerman wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2025-09-05 at 17:45 +0100, Mykyta Yatsenko wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > A small state machine and refcounting scheme ensures safe reuse and
> > > > teardown:
> > > > STANDBY -> PENDING -> SCHEDULING -> SCHEDULED -> RUNNING -> STANDBY
> > > Nit: state machine is actually a bit more complex:
> > >
> > > digraph G {
> > > scheduling -> running [label="callback 1"];
> > > scheduled -> running [label="callback 2"];
> > > running -> standby [label="callback 3"];
> > > pending -> scheduling [label="irq 1"];
> > > scheduling -> standby [label="irq 2"];
> > > scheduling -> scheduled [label="irq 3"];
> > > standby -> pending [label="acquire_ctx"];
> > >
> > > freed -> freed [label="cancel_and_free"];
> > > pending -> freed [label="cancel_and_free"];
> > > running -> freed [label="cancel_and_free"];
> > > scheduled -> freed [label="cancel_and_free"];
> > > scheduling -> freed [label="cancel_and_free"];
> > > standby -> freed [label="cancel_and_free"];
> > > }
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > I'll update the description to contain proper graph.
>
> Hm... I like the main linear chain of state transitions as is, tbh.
> It's fundamentally simple and helps get the general picture. Sure,
> there are important details, but I don't think we should overwhelm
> anyone reading with all of this upfront.
>
> In the above, "callback 1" and so on is not really helpful for
> understanding, IMO.
I'm not suggesting to take the above graphviz spec as a description.
Just point out that current message is misleading.
> I'd just add the note that a) each state can transition to FREED and
> b) with tiny probability we might skip SCHEDULED and go SCHEDULING ->
> RUNNING (extremely unlikely if at all possible, tbh).
>
> In short, let's not go too detailed here.
As you see fit. Transition graph is easier to read for me, but maybe
other people are better at reading text.
>
> > > > Flow of successful task work scheduling
> > > > 1) bpf_task_work_schedule_* is called from BPF code.
> > > > 2) Transition state from STANDBY to PENDING, marks context is owned by
> > > > this task work scheduler
> > > > 3) irq_work_queue() schedules bpf_task_work_irq().
> > > > 4) Transition state from PENDING to SCHEDULING.
> > > > 4) bpf_task_work_irq() attempts task_work_add(). If successful, state
> > > > transitions to SCHEDULED.
> > > Nit: "4" repeated two times.
> > >
> > > > 5) Task work calls bpf_task_work_callback(), which transition state to
> > > > RUNNING.
> > > > 6) BPF callback is executed
> > > > 7) Context is cleaned up, refcounts released, context state set back to
> > > > STANDBY.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Mykyta Yatsenko <yatsenko@meta.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > kernel/bpf/helpers.c | 319 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> > > > 1 file changed, 317 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/kernel/bpf/helpers.c b/kernel/bpf/helpers.c
> > > > index 109cb249e88c..418a0a211699 100644
> > > > --- a/kernel/bpf/helpers.c
> > > > +++ b/kernel/bpf/helpers.c
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > +static void bpf_task_work_cancel(struct bpf_task_work_ctx *ctx)
> > > > +{
> > > > + /*
> > > > + * Scheduled task_work callback holds ctx ref, so if we successfully
> > > > + * cancelled, we put that ref on callback's behalf. If we couldn't
> > > > + * cancel, callback is inevitably run or has already completed
> > > > + * running, and it would have taken care of its ctx ref itself.
> > > > + */
> > > > + if (task_work_cancel_match(ctx->task, task_work_match, ctx))
> > > Will `task_work_cancel(ctx->task, ctx->work)` do the same thing here?
> > I think so, yes, thanks for checking.
> > >
> > > > + bpf_task_work_ctx_put(ctx);
> > > > +}
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > +static void bpf_task_work_irq(struct irq_work *irq_work)
> > > > +{
> > > > + struct bpf_task_work_ctx *ctx = container_of(irq_work, struct bpf_task_work_ctx, irq_work);
> > > > + enum bpf_task_work_state state;
> > > > + int err;
> > > > +
> > > > + guard(rcu_tasks_trace)();
> > > > +
> > > > + if (cmpxchg(&ctx->state, BPF_TW_PENDING, BPF_TW_SCHEDULING) != BPF_TW_PENDING) {
> > > > + bpf_task_work_ctx_put(ctx);
> > > > + return;
> > > > + }
> > > Why are separate PENDING and SCHEDULING states needed?
> > > Both indicate that the task had not been yet but is ready to be
> > > submitted to task_work_add(). So, on a first glance it seems that
> > > merging the two won't change the behaviour, what do I miss?
> > Yes, this is right, we may drop SCHEDULING state, it does not change any
> > behavior compared to PENDING.
> > The state check before task_work_add is needed anyway, so we won't
> > remove much code here.
> > I kept it just to be more consistent: with every state check we also
> > transition state machine forward.
>
> Yeah, I like this property as well, I think it makes it easier to
> reason about all this. I'd keep the PENDING and SCHEDULING
> distinction, unless there is a strong reason not to.
>
> It also gives us a natural point to check for FREED before doing
> unnecessary task_work scheduling + cancelling (if we were already in
> FREED). It doesn't seem like we'll simplify anything by SCHEDULING (or
> PENDING) state.
Again, people are probably different, but it took me some time trying
to figure out if I'm missing some details or SCHEDULING is there just
for the sake of it.
> > >
> > > > + err = task_work_add(ctx->task, &ctx->work, ctx->mode);
> > > > + if (err) {
> > > > + bpf_task_work_ctx_reset(ctx);
> > > > + /*
> > > > + * try to switch back to STANDBY for another task_work reuse, but we might have
> > > > + * gone to FREED already, which is fine as we already cleaned up after ourselves
> > > > + */
> > > > + (void)cmpxchg(&ctx->state, BPF_TW_SCHEDULING, BPF_TW_STANDBY);
> > > > +
> > > > + /* we don't have RCU protection, so put after switching state */
> > > > + bpf_task_work_ctx_put(ctx);
> > > > + }
> > > > +
>
> [...]
>
> > > > +
> > > > + return ctx;
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > > +static int bpf_task_work_schedule(struct task_struct *task, struct bpf_task_work *tw,
> > > > + struct bpf_map *map, bpf_task_work_callback_t callback_fn,
> > > > + struct bpf_prog_aux *aux, enum task_work_notify_mode mode)
> > > > +{
> > > > + struct bpf_prog *prog;
> > > > + struct bpf_task_work_ctx *ctx;
> > > > + int err;
> > > > +
> > > > + BTF_TYPE_EMIT(struct bpf_task_work);
> > > > +
> > > > + prog = bpf_prog_inc_not_zero(aux->prog);
> > > > + if (IS_ERR(prog))
> > > > + return -EBADF;
> > > > + task = bpf_task_acquire(task);
> > > > + if (!task) {
> > > > + err = -EPERM;
> > > Nit: Why -EPERM? bpf_task_acquire() returns NULL if task->rcu_users
> > > is zero, does not seem to be permission related.
> > Right, this probably should be -EBADF.
>
> timer and wq (and now task_work) return -EPERM for map->usercnt==0
> check, but we have -EBADF for prog refcount being zero. It's a bit all
> over the place... I don't have a strong preference, but it would be
> nice to stay more or less consistent for all these "it's too late"
> conditions, IMO.
Ok, probably being consistently wrong is better option here,
let's stick with -EPERM.
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2025-09-05 16:44 [PATCH bpf-next v3 0/7] bpf: Introduce deferred task context execution Mykyta Yatsenko
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2025-09-05 19:36 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-09-05 21:29 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-09-05 16:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 2/7] bpf: extract generic helper from process_timer_func() Mykyta Yatsenko
2025-09-05 21:15 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-09-05 21:28 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-09-05 21:31 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-09-05 21:32 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-09-05 21:29 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-09-05 16:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 3/7] bpf: htab: extract helper for freeing special structs Mykyta Yatsenko
2025-09-05 21:31 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-09-05 21:31 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-09-05 16:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 4/7] bpf: bpf task work plumbing Mykyta Yatsenko
2025-09-05 21:31 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-09-05 23:09 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-09-15 15:59 ` Mykyta Yatsenko
2025-09-15 20:12 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-09-15 20:20 ` Mykyta Yatsenko
2025-09-15 20:28 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-09-05 16:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 5/7] bpf: extract map key pointer calculation Mykyta Yatsenko
2025-09-05 21:31 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-09-05 23:19 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-09-08 13:39 ` Mykyta Yatsenko
2025-09-08 17:18 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-09-05 16:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 6/7] bpf: task work scheduling kfuncs Mykyta Yatsenko
2025-09-05 21:31 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-09-06 20:22 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-09-08 13:13 ` Mykyta Yatsenko
2025-09-08 17:38 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-09-09 3:42 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-09-09 4:15 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-09-09 3:33 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-09-09 4:05 ` Eduard Zingerman [this message]
2025-09-10 14:14 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-09-09 17:49 ` Chris Mason
2025-09-09 18:59 ` Mykyta Yatsenko
2025-09-05 16:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 7/7] selftests/bpf: BPF task work scheduling tests Mykyta Yatsenko
2025-09-05 21:31 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-09-08 7:43 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-09-08 13:21 ` Mykyta Yatsenko
2025-09-08 18:23 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-09-09 3:44 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-09-08 18:23 ` Eduard Zingerman
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