From: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
To: Jason Xing <kerneljasonxing@gmail.com>,
davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org,
bjorn@kernel.org, magnus.karlsson@intel.com,
maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com, jonathan.lemon@gmail.com,
sdf@fomichev.me, ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net,
hawk@kernel.org, john.fastabend@gmail.com, joe@dama.to,
willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
Jason Xing <kernelxing@tencent.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v7] net: xsk: introduce XDP_MAX_TX_SKB_BUDGET setsockopt
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2025 08:13:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2e1412dd-97c6-4fdb-ba7b-6529b032d6b9@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250703145045.58271-1-kerneljasonxing@gmail.com>
On 7/3/25 4:50 PM, Jason Xing wrote:
> From: Jason Xing <kernelxing@tencent.com>
>
> This patch provides a setsockopt method to let applications leverage to
> adjust how many descs to be handled at most in one send syscall. It
> mitigates the situation where the default value (32) that is too small
> leads to higher frequency of triggering send syscall.
>
> Considering the prosperity/complexity the applications have, there is no
> absolutely ideal suggestion fitting all cases. So keep 32 as its default
> value like before.
>
> The patch does the following things:
> - Add XDP_MAX_TX_SKB_BUDGET socket option.
> - Set max_tx_budget to 32 by default in the initialization phase as a
> per-socket granular control.
> - Set the range of max_tx_budget as [32, xs->tx->nentries].
>
> The idea behind this comes out of real workloads in production. We use a
> user-level stack with xsk support to accelerate sending packets and
> minimize triggering syscalls. When the packets are aggregated, it's not
> hard to hit the upper bound (namely, 32). The moment user-space stack
> fetches the -EAGAIN error number passed from sendto(), it will loop to try
> again until all the expected descs from tx ring are sent out to the driver.
> Enlarging the XDP_MAX_TX_SKB_BUDGET value contributes to less frequency of
> sendto() and higher throughput/PPS.
>
> Here is what I did in production, along with some numbers as follows:
> For one application I saw lately, I suggested using 128 as max_tx_budget
> because I saw two limitations without changing any default configuration:
> 1) XDP_MAX_TX_SKB_BUDGET, 2) socket sndbuf which is 212992 decided by
> net.core.wmem_default. As to XDP_MAX_TX_SKB_BUDGET, the scenario behind
> this was I counted how many descs are transmitted to the driver at one
> time of sendto() based on [1] patch and then I calculated the
> possibility of hitting the upper bound. Finally I chose 128 as a
> suitable value because 1) it covers most of the cases, 2) a higher
> number would not bring evident results. After twisting the parameters,
> a stable improvement of around 4% for both PPS and throughput and less
> resources consumption were found to be observed by strace -c -p xxx:
> 1) %time was decreased by 7.8%
> 2) error counter was decreased from 18367 to 572
>
> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250619093641.70700-1-kerneljasonxing@gmail.com/
>
> Signed-off-by: Jason Xing <kernelxing@tencent.com>
> ---
> v7
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250627110121.73228-1-kerneljasonxing@gmail.com/
> 1. use 'copy mode' in Doc
> 2. move init of max_tx_budget to a proper position
> 3. use the max value in the if condition in setsockopt
> 4. change sockopt name to XDP_MAX_TX_SKB_BUDGET
> 5. set MAX_PER_SOCKET_BUDGET to 32 instead of TX_BATCH_SIZE because they
> have no correlation at all.
>
> v6
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250625123527.98209-1-kerneljasonxing@gmail.com/
> 1. use [32, xs->tx->nentries] range
> 2. Since setsockopt may generate a different value, add getsockopt to help
> application know what value takes effect finally.
>
> v5
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250623021345.69211-1-kerneljasonxing@gmail.com/
> 1. remove changes around zc mode
>
> v4
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250619090440.65509-1-kerneljasonxing@gmail.com/
> 1. remove getsockopt as it seems no real use case.
> 2. adjust the position of max_tx_budget to make sure it stays with other
> read-most fields in one cacheline.
> 3. set one as the lower bound of max_tx_budget
> 4. add more descriptions/performance data in Doucmentation and commit message.
>
> V3
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250618065553.96822-1-kerneljasonxing@gmail.com/
> 1. use a per-socket control (suggested by Stanislav)
> 2. unify both definitions into one
> 3. support setsockopt and getsockopt
> 4. add more description in commit message
>
> V2
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250617002236.30557-1-kerneljasonxing@gmail.com/
> 1. use a per-netns sysctl knob
> 2. use sysctl_xsk_max_tx_budget to unify both definitions.
> ---
> Documentation/networking/af_xdp.rst | 9 +++++++++
> include/net/xdp_sock.h | 1 +
> include/uapi/linux/if_xdp.h | 1 +
> net/xdp/xsk.c | 21 +++++++++++++++++++--
> tools/include/uapi/linux/if_xdp.h | 1 +
> 5 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/networking/af_xdp.rst b/Documentation/networking/af_xdp.rst
> index dceeb0d763aa..95ff1836e5c6 100644
> --- a/Documentation/networking/af_xdp.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/networking/af_xdp.rst
> @@ -442,6 +442,15 @@ is created by a privileged process and passed to a non-privileged one.
> Once the option is set, kernel will refuse attempts to bind that socket
> to a different interface. Updating the value requires CAP_NET_RAW.
>
> +XDP_MAX_TX_SKB_BUDGET setsockopt
> +----------------------------
I'm sorry, kdoc is not happy about the above:
/home/doc-build/testing/Documentation/networking/af_xdp.rst:442:
WARNING: Title underline too short.XDP_MAX_TX_SKB_BUDGET setsockopt
----------------------------
/P
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-04 6:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-03 14:50 [PATCH net-next v7] net: xsk: introduce XDP_MAX_TX_SKB_BUDGET setsockopt Jason Xing
2025-07-03 15:15 ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2025-07-04 6:13 ` Paolo Abeni [this message]
2025-07-04 6:19 ` Jason Xing
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