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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
	npache@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com, dev.jain@arm.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, usamaarif642@gmail.com,
	gutierrez.asier@huawei-partners.com, willy@infradead.org,
	ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net, andrii@kernel.org,
	ameryhung@gmail.com, rientjes@google.com, corbet@lwn.net,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 mm-new 02/10] mm: thp: add a new kfunc bpf_mm_get_mem_cgroup()
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2025 11:45:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5b7854d3-667e-40cf-94e3-f0d887cb514d@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <gkhxoowgcfvoj5wwbaji6v7wpizj4imwyxzrxnmw3bbd3u6eg3@ekfuuadgpeer>

On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 09:00:15AM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 11:40:16AM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 01:50:18PM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 04:34:48PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > > > > +__bpf_kfunc_start_defs();
> > > > > +
> > > > > +/**
> > > > > + * bpf_mm_get_mem_cgroup - Get the memory cgroup associated with a mm_struct.
> > > > > + * @mm: The mm_struct to query
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * The obtained mem_cgroup must be released by calling bpf_put_mem_cgroup().
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * Return: The associated mem_cgroup on success, or NULL on failure. Note that
> > > > > + * this function depends on CONFIG_MEMCG being enabled - it will always return
> > > > > + * NULL if CONFIG_MEMCG is not configured.
> > > >
> > > > What kind of locking is assumed here?
> > > >
> > > > Are we protected against mmdrop() clearing out the mm?
> > >
> > > No locking is needed. Just the valid mm object or NULL. Usually the
> > > underlying function (get_mem_cgroup_from_mm) is called in page fault
> > > context where the current is holding mm. Here the only requirement is
> > > that mm is valid either through explicit reference or the context.
> >
> > I mean this may be down to me being not so familiar with BPF, but my concern is
> > that we're handing _any_ mm here.
>
> It's not really any mm but rather the mm whose validity is ensured by
> the caller. I don't know the BPF internals but if I understand Andrii's
> response on other email, the BPF verifier will make sure the BPF program
> is holding a valid mm on which it is calling this function. In non-BPF
> world, get_mem_cgroup_from_mm() assumes the caller is providing a valid
> mm.

OK cool. The verifier aspect of this is really nice... :)

>
> >
> > So presumably this could also be a remote mm?
>
> Which is fine as we already do this today i.e. page fault on accessing
> memory of a remote process.

OK.

>
> >
> > If not then why are we accepting an mm parameter at all, when we could just grab
> > current->mm?
>
> Because current->mm might not be equal to the faulting mm as in the case
> of remote page fault.

Ack yeah as per above.

>
> >
> > If it's a remote mm, then we need to be absolutely sure that we won't UAF.
> >
> > I also feel we should talk about this in the kdoc, unless BPF always somehow
> > asserts these things to be the case + verifies them smoehow.
> >
>
> Yeah some text on how BPF verifier is making sure that the BPF program
> is handling a valid mm.

This would be nice indeed!

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-29 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-26  7:19 [PATCH v6 mm-new 00/10] mm, bpf: BPF based THP order selection Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 01/10] mm: thp: add support for " Yafang Shao
2025-08-27  2:57   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-27 11:39     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:04       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-27 15:03   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  5:54     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-28 10:50       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29  3:01         ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29 10:42           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-31  3:11             ` Yafang Shao
2025-09-01 11:39               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-02  2:48                 ` Yafang Shao
2025-09-02  7:50                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-03  2:10                     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29  4:56   ` Barry Song
2025-08-29  5:36     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 02/10] mm: thp: add a new kfunc bpf_mm_get_mem_cgroup() Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:34   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-27 20:50     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-28 10:40       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28 16:00         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-29 10:45           ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-08-28  6:57     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-28 10:42       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29  3:09         ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 20:45   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-28  6:58     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 03/10] mm: thp: add a new kfunc bpf_mm_get_task() Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:42   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-27 21:50     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-08-28  6:50       ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-28 10:51       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29  3:15         ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29 10:42           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  6:47     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29 10:43       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 04/10] bpf: mark vma->vm_mm as trusted Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:45   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  6:12     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-28 11:11       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29  3:05         ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29 10:49           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-31  3:16             ` Yafang Shao
2025-09-01 10:36               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 05/10] selftests/bpf: add a simple BPF based THP policy Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 06/10] selftests/bpf: add test case for khugepaged fork Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 07/10] selftests/bpf: add test case to update thp policy Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 08/10] selftests/bpf: add test cases for invalid thp_adjust usage Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 09/10] Documentation: add BPF-based THP adjustment documentation Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 10/10] MAINTAINERS: add entry for BPF-based THP adjustment Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:47   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  6:08     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:42 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 00/10] mm, bpf: BPF based THP order selection David Hildenbrand
2025-08-26  8:33   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26 12:06     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  9:52   ` Usama Arif
2025-08-26 12:10     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26 12:03   ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 13:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  2:58   ` Yafang Shao

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