From: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
To: Puranjay Mohan <puranjay@kernel.org>, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Puranjay Mohan <puranjay12@gmail.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@kernel.org>,
Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
Mykyta Yatsenko <mykyta.yatsenko5@gmail.com>,
kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 1/3] bpf: Support negative offsets and BPF_SUB for linked register tracking
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2026 17:47:29 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5e6bfb044463123d7671cf1eb4b9b416c5fe5c1d.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5fa1d856b98cb7f0cb4eb402f616946b0c6c9211.camel@gmail.com>
On Wed, 2026-01-07 at 17:40 -0800, Eduard Zingerman wrote:
> On Wed, 2026-01-07 at 12:39 -0800, Puranjay Mohan wrote:
> > Extend the linked register tracking to support:
> >
> > 1. Negative offsets via BPF_ADD (e.g., r1 += -4)
> > 2. BPF_SUB operations (e.g., r1 -= 4), which is treated as r1 += -4
> >
> > Previously, the verifier only tracked positive constant deltas between
> > linked registers using BPF_ADD. This limitation meant patterns like:
> >
> > r1 = r0
> > r1 += -4
> > if r1 s>= 0 goto ... // r1 >= 0 implies r0 >= 4
> > // verifier couldn't propagate bounds back to r0
> >
> > With this change, the verifier can now track negative deltas in reg->off
> > (which is already s32), enabling bound propagation for the above pattern.
> >
> > The changes include:
> > - Accept BPF_SUB in addition to BPF_ADD
> > - Change overflow check from val > (u32)S32_MAX to checking if val fits
> > in s32 range: (s64)val != (s64)(s32)val
> > - For BPF_SUB, negate the offset with a guard against S32_MIN overflow
> > - Keep !alu32 restriction as 32-bit ALU has known issues with upper bits
>
> This is because we don't know if other registers with the same id have
> their upper 32-bits as zeroes, right?
Nah, we do know if their upper halves are zeroes or not,
registers with same id are identical up to the ->off field.
So, it appears that this restriction can be partially lifted if we
check if dst_reg upper half is zero before operation.
Wdyt?
> I'm curious how often we hit this limitation in practice, I would
> expect code operating on 32-bit values to hit this from time to time.
> E.g. see example in [1] (but it is mitigated by an LLVM workaround).
>
> [1] https://github.com/eddyz87/cauldron-25-llvm-workarounds/blob/master/draft.md#bpfadjustoptimplserializeicmpcrossbb
>
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Puranjay Mohan <puranjay@kernel.org>
> > ---
>
> Acked-by: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
>
> [...]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-08 1:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-07 20:39 [PATCH bpf-next 0/3] bpf: Improve linked register tracking Puranjay Mohan
2026-01-07 20:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/3] bpf: Support negative offsets and BPF_SUB for " Puranjay Mohan
2026-01-08 1:40 ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-01-08 1:47 ` Eduard Zingerman [this message]
2026-01-08 2:53 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-07 20:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/3] selftests/bpf: Add tests for linked register tracking with negative offsets Puranjay Mohan
2026-01-08 2:11 ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-01-21 0:46 ` __description(). Was: " Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-08 6:55 ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-01-08 11:33 ` Puranjay Mohan
2026-01-07 20:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/3] selftests/bpf: Update expected output for sub64_partial_overflow test Puranjay Mohan
2026-01-08 6:59 ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-01-08 10:39 ` Puranjay Mohan
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