From: Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>
To: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Quentin Monnet <quentin@isovalent.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
Cc: "Martin KaFai Lau" <kafai@fb.com>,
"Song Liu" <songliubraving@fb.com>,
"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
"KP Singh" <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
"Stanislav Fomichev" <sdf@google.com>,
"Hao Luo" <haoluo@google.com>, "Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
bpf@vger.kernel.org,
"Niklas Söderlund" <niklas.soderlund@corigine.com>,
"Simon Horman" <simon.horman@corigine.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 6/8] bpftool: Add LLVM as default library for disassembling JIT-ed programs
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 21:08:04 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <60c18ba0-6f3a-4385-8622-9db8013dee28@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00d4de2e-c7ac-7aa5-9d31-868d73af4fe2@iogearbox.net>
On 9/16/22 2:09 PM, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> On 9/11/22 10:14 PM, Quentin Monnet wrote:
>> To disassemble instructions for JIT-ed programs, bpftool has relied on
>> the libbfd library. This has been problematic in the past: libbfd's
>> interface is not meant to be stable and has changed several times. For
>> building bpftool, we have to detect how the libbfd version on the system
>> behaves, which is why we have to handle features disassembler-four-args
>> and disassembler-init-styled in the Makefile. When it comes to shipping
>> bpftool, this has also caused issues with several distribution
>> maintainers unwilling to support the feature (see for example Debian's
>> page for binutils-dev, which ships libbfd: "Note that building Debian
>> packages which depend on the shared libbfd is Not Allowed." [0]).
>>
>> For these reasons, we add support for LLVM as an alternative to libbfd
>> for disassembling instructions of JIT-ed programs. Thanks to the
>> preparation work in the previous commits, it's easy to add the library
>> by passing the relevant compilation options in the Makefile, and by
>> adding the functions for setting up the LLVM disassembler in file
>> jit_disasm.c.
>
> Could you add more context around the LLVM lib? The motivation is that
> libbfd's
> interface is not meant to be stable and has changed several times. How
> does this
> look on the LLVM's library side? Also, for the 2nd part, what is
> Debian's stance
> related to the LLVM lib? Would be good if both is explained in the
> commit message.
> Right now it mainly reads 'that libbfd has all these issues, so we're
> moving to
> something else', so would be good to provide more context to the ready
> why the
> 'something else' is better than current one.
It will be good to mention that e.g., llvm development package
(e.g., llvm-devel for fedora) is needed for bpftool build with llvm.
>
>> Naturally, the display of disassembled instructions comes with a few
>> minor differences. Here is a sample output with libbfd (already
>> supported before this patch):
>>
>> # bpftool prog dump jited id 56
>> bpf_prog_6deef7357e7b4530:
>> 0: nopl 0x0(%rax,%rax,1)
>> 5: xchg %ax,%ax
>> 7: push %rbp
>> 8: mov %rsp,%rbp
>> b: push %rbx
>> c: push %r13
>> e: push %r14
>> 10: mov %rdi,%rbx
>> 13: movzwq 0xb4(%rbx),%r13
>> 1b: xor %r14d,%r14d
>> 1e: or $0x2,%r14d
>> 22: mov $0x1,%eax
>> 27: cmp $0x2,%r14
>> 2b: jne 0x000000000000002f
>> 2d: xor %eax,%eax
>> 2f: pop %r14
>> 31: pop %r13
>> 33: pop %rbx
>> 34: leave
>> 35: ret
>>
>> LLVM supports several variants that we could set when initialising the
>> disassembler, for example with:
>>
>> LLVMSetDisasmOptions(*ctx,
>> LLVMDisassembler_Option_AsmPrinterVariant);
>>
>> but the default printer is used for now. Here is the output with LLVM:
>>
>> # bpftool prog dump jited id 56
>> bpf_prog_6deef7357e7b4530:
>> 0: nopl (%rax,%rax)
>> 5: nop
>> 7: pushq %rbp
>> 8: movq %rsp, %rbp
>> b: pushq %rbx
>> c: pushq %r13
>> e: pushq %r14
>> 10: movq %rdi, %rbx
>> 13: movzwq 180(%rbx), %r13
>> 1b: xorl %r14d, %r14d
>> 1e: orl $2, %r14d
>> 22: movl $1, %eax
>> 27: cmpq $2, %r14
>> 2b: jne 0x2f
>> 2d: xorl %eax, %eax
>> 2f: popq %r14
>> 31: popq %r13
>> 33: popq %rbx
>> 34: leave
>> 35: retq
>>
>> The LLVM disassembler comes as the default choice, with libbfd as a
>> fall-back.
>>
>> Of course, we could replace libbfd entirely and avoid supporting two
>> different libraries. One reason for keeping libbfd is that, right now,
>> it works well, we have all we need in terms of features detection in the
>> Makefile, so it provides a fallback for disassembling JIT-ed programs if
>> libbfd is installed but LLVM is not. The other motivation is that libbfd
>> supports nfp instruction for Netronome's SmartNICs and can be used to
>> disassemble offloaded programs, something that LLVM cannot do. If
>> libbfd's interface breaks again in the future, we might reconsider
>> keeping support for it.
>>
>> [0]
>> https://packages.debian.org/buster/binutils-dev
>> Signed-off-by: Quentin Monnet <quentin@isovalent.com>
>> Tested-by: Niklas Söderlund <niklas.soderlund@corigine.com>
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-20 4:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-11 20:14 [PATCH bpf-next v2 0/8] bpftool: Add LLVM as default library for disassembling JIT-ed programs Quentin Monnet
2022-09-11 20:14 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/8] bpftool: Define _GNU_SOURCE only once Quentin Monnet
2022-09-11 20:14 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 2/8] bpftool: Remove asserts from JIT disassembler Quentin Monnet
2022-09-11 20:14 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 3/8] bpftool: Split FEATURE_TESTS/FEATURE_DISPLAY definitions in Makefile Quentin Monnet
2022-09-11 20:14 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 4/8] bpftool: Group libbfd defs in Makefile, only pass them if we use libbfd Quentin Monnet
2022-09-11 20:14 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 5/8] bpftool: Refactor disassembler for JIT-ed programs Quentin Monnet
2022-09-11 20:14 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 6/8] bpftool: Add LLVM as default library for disassembling " Quentin Monnet
2022-09-16 21:09 ` Daniel Borkmann
2022-09-20 4:08 ` Yonghong Song [this message]
2022-09-23 11:23 ` Quentin Monnet
2022-09-23 11:23 ` Quentin Monnet
2022-09-19 23:58 ` Yonghong Song
2022-09-11 20:14 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 7/8] bpftool: Support setting alternative arch for JIT disasm with LLVM Quentin Monnet
2022-09-11 20:14 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 8/8] bpftool: Add llvm feature to "bpftool version" Quentin Monnet
2022-09-20 0:03 ` Yonghong Song
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