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From: Levi Zim <i@kxxt.dev>
To: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, andrii@kernel.org
Cc: daniel@iogearbox.net, martin.lau@linux.dev, kernel-team@fb.com,
	yonghong.song@linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] bpf: calls to bpf_loop() should have an SCC and accumulate backedges
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2026 17:41:35 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <632021d4-9401-4c3a-af4c-bdb450add34f@kxxt.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <79ac0188db82c675e62c36c8ab036b45cef3f3f7.camel@gmail.com>

On 2026-03-06 16:27, Eduard Zingerman wrote:
> On Fri, 2026-03-06 at 16:20 +0800, Levi Zim wrote:
>> Hi Eduard,
>>
>> On 2025-12-30 15:13, Eduard Zingerman wrote:
>>> This is a correctness fix for the verification of BPF programs that
>>> work with callback-calling functions. The problem is the same as the
>>> issue fixed by series [1] for iterator-based loops: some of the states
>>> created while processing the callback function body might have
>>> incomplete read or precision marks.
>>>
>>> An example of an unsafe program that is accepted without this fix can
>>> be found in patch #2.
>>>
>>> There is some impact on verification performance:
>>>
>>> File                             Program               Insns (A)  Insns (B)  Insns      (DIFF)
>>> -------------------------------  --------------------  ---------  ---------  -----------------
>>> pyperf600_bpf_loop.bpf.o         on_event                   4247       9985   +5738 (+135.11%)
>>> setget_sockopt.bpf.o             skops_sockopt              5719       7446    +1727 (+30.20%)
>>> setget_sockopt.bpf.o             socket_post_create         1253       1603     +350 (+27.93%)
>>> strobemeta_bpf_loop.bpf.o        on_event                   3424       7224   +3800 (+110.98%)
>>> test_tcp_custom_syncookie.bpf.o  tcp_custom_syncookie      11929      38307  +26378 (+221.12%)
>>> xdp_synproxy_kern.bpf.o          syncookie_tc              13986      23035    +9049 (+64.70%)
>>> xdp_synproxy_kern.bpf.o          syncookie_xdp             13881      21022    +7141 (+51.44%)
>> I see that the first patch in the series causes some impact on
>> verification performance.
>> The patch contains "Fixes:" tag for two commits that landed in 6.17 kernel:
>>
>> c9e31900b54c ("bpf: propagate read/precision marks over state graph backedges")
>> 96c6aa4c63af ("bpf: compute SCCs in program control flow graph")
>>
>> I have a BPF program [1] that is badly affected by the patch that it no
>> longer loads on 6.19.5 due to
>> E2BIG error.
>>
>> The program consists of multiple nested bpf_loop calls as follows so I
>> think the impact on it is expected.
>>
>> (entry point) func trace_exec_common
>> -> (bpf_loop) callback read_strings for reading ARGV
>> -> (bpf_loop) callback read_strings for reading ENVP
>> -> (call) read_fds
>>      -> (bpf_loop) callback read_fds_impl for iterating over the fdset
>>         -> (bpf_loop) callback read_fdset_word for reading a single word in the fdset
>>             -> (call) _read_fd for getting information from a single fd
>>                 -> (call) read_send_path which reads the absolute path and mount info
>>
>>
>> After the patch, I find that I need to comment out the
>> bpf_loop(BITS_PER_LONG, read_fdset_word, &subctx, 0)
>> statement in read_fds_impl function to make the eBPF program load.
>>
>> Does it mean that after the patch, the verification performance degraded
>> significantly compared to older
>> versions of kernel, e.g. 6.6 LTS? Or is it that older kernels are also
>> impacted with the same sort of bug and
>> currently waiting to be fixed?
>>
>> I am also exploring ways to fix my bpf program so that it could work on
>> 6.19.4 and later kernels.
>> It would be greatly appreciated if you could share some insights for
>> fixing bpf programs that are badly
>> affected by this patch.
> Hi Levi,

Hi Eduard,

Thanks for your quick reply!
>
> I'll take a detailed look tomorrow, but am curious if patch-set [1]
> helps with your program? As far as I understand it is not a part of
> 6.19, as it was not marked as "fixes".

The patch-set is in v7.0-rc2 so I tested my program on v7.0-rc2 but it 
still doesn't load.
However, the logs are slightly different.

The log from v7.0-rc2 is shorter than the one I got from v6.19.4 and the 
metrics are slightly different:

 From 6.19.4:

BPF program is too large. Processed 1000001 insn
processed 1000001 insns (limit 1000000) max_states_per_insn 46 total_states 48940 peak_states 103941 mark_read 0

 From 7.0-rc2:

BPF program is too large. Processed 1000001 insn
processed 1000001 insns (limit 1000000) max_states_per_insn 55 total_states 46639 peak_states 99877 mark_read 0

So I think the patch-set helped but still couldn't make the program load 
again.

If you want me to test the patch-set by applying it on top of 6.19.4, 
feel free to tell me.

Thanks,
Levi

>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20251230-loop-stack-misc-pruning-v1-0-585cfd6cec51@gmail.com/
>
> Thanks,
> Eduard
>
>> [1]:
>> https://github.com/kxxt/tracexec/blob/main/crates/tracexec-backend-ebpf/src/bpf/tracexec_system.bpf.c
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Levi
>>
>>> Total progs: 4172
>>> Old success: 2520
>>> New success: 2520
>>> total_insns diff min:    0.00%
>>> total_insns diff max:  221.12%
>>> 0 -> value: 0
>>> value -> 0: 0
>>> total_insns abs max old: 837,487
>>> total_insns abs max new: 837,487
>>>      0 .. 5    %: 4163
>>>      5 .. 15   %: 2
>>>     25 .. 35   %: 2
>>>     50 .. 60   %: 1
>>>     60 .. 70   %: 1
>>>    110 .. 120  %: 1
>>>    135 .. 145  %: 1
>>>    220 .. 225  %: 1
>>>
>>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/174968344350.3524559.14906547029551737094.git-patchwork-notify@kernel.org/
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Eduard Zingerman (2):
>>>         bpf: bpf_scc_visit instance and backedges accumulation for bpf_loop()
>>>         selftests/bpf: test cases for bpf_loop SCC and state graph backedges
>>>
>>>    kernel/bpf/verifier.c                     | 13 ++++--
>>>    tools/testing/selftests/bpf/progs/iters.c | 75 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>    2 files changed, 84 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>> ---
>>> base-commit: f14cdb1367b947d373215e36cfe9c69768dbafc9
>>> change-id: 20251219-scc-for-callbacks-d6d94faa2e43
>>>

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-06  9:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-30  7:13 [PATCH 0/2] bpf: calls to bpf_loop() should have an SCC and accumulate backedges Eduard Zingerman
2025-12-30  7:13 ` [PATCH 1/2] bpf: bpf_scc_visit instance and backedges accumulation for bpf_loop() Eduard Zingerman
2025-12-30 10:20   ` Breno Leitao
2025-12-30  7:13 ` [PATCH 2/2] selftests/bpf: test cases for bpf_loop SCC and state graph backedges Eduard Zingerman
2025-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 0/2] bpf: calls to bpf_loop() should have an SCC and accumulate backedges Eduard Zingerman
2025-12-30 23:50 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2026-03-06  8:20 ` Levi Zim
2026-03-06  8:27   ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-03-06  9:41     ` Levi Zim [this message]
2026-03-06 15:40       ` Levi Zim
2026-03-27 19:41     ` Barret Rhoden
2026-03-27 20:10       ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-03-30 18:23         ` Barret Rhoden
2026-03-27 20:10       ` Barret Rhoden
2026-03-28  1:29         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-03-30 18:23           ` Barret Rhoden
2026-04-03 21:58         ` Emil Tsalapatis
2026-04-04 23:49           ` Barret Rhoden

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