From: Alan Maguire <alan.maguire@oracle.com>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
Cc: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com, jolsa@kernel.org, ast@kernel.org,
daniel@iogearbox.net, martin.lau@linux.dev, song@kernel.org,
yhs@fb.com, john.fastabend@gmail.com, kpsingh@kernel.org,
sdf@google.com, haoluo@google.com, mykolal@fb.com,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC dwarves 3/4] pahole: add --btf_features=feature1[,feature2...] support
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 15:43:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <647e050c-56c5-7fc2-9a25-c18ce7f98529@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZSlRftMvOpscFe2S@kernel.org>
On 13/10/2023 15:17, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> Em Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 01:35:41PM +0100, Alan Maguire escreveu:
>> On 11/10/2023 23:14, Eduard Zingerman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2023-10-11 at 23:05 +0100, Alan Maguire wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>>>> I'm not sure I understand the logic behind "skip" features.
>>>>>>> Take `decl_tag` for example:
>>>>>>> - by default conf_load->skip_encoding_btf_decl_tag is 0;
>>>>>>> - if `--btf_features=decl_tag` is passed it is still 0 because of the
>>>>>>> `skip ? false : true` logic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If there is no way to change "skip" features why listing these at all?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're right; in the case of a skip feature, I think we need the
>>>>>> following behaviour
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. we skip the encoding by default (so the equivalent of
>>>>>> --skip_encoding_btf_decl_tag, setting skip_encoding_btf_decl_tag
>>>>>> to true
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. if the user however specifies the logical inversion of the skip
>>>>>> feature in --btf_features (in this case "decl_tag" - or "all")
>>>>>> skip_encoding_btf_decl_tag is set to false.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So in my code we had 2 above but not 1. If both were in place I think
>>>>>> we'd have the right set of behaviours. Does that sound right?
>>>>>
>>>>> You mean when --features=? is specified we default to
>>>>> conf_load->skip_encoding_btf_decl_tag = true, and set it to false only
>>>>> if "all" or "decl_tag" is listed in features, right?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yep. Here's the comment I was thinking of adding for the next version,
>>>> hopefully it clarifies this all a bit more than the original.
>>>>
>>>> +/* --btf_features=feature1[,feature2,..] allows us to specify
>>>> + * a list of requested BTF features or "all" to enable all features.
>>>> + * These are translated into the appropriate conf_load values via
>>>> + * struct btf_feature which specifies the associated conf_load
>>>> + * boolean field and whether its default (representing the feature being
>>>> + * off) is false or true.
>>>> + *
>>>> + * btf_features is for opting _into_ features so for a case like
>>>> + * conf_load->btf_gen_floats, the translation is simple; the presence
>>>> + * of the "float" feature in --btf_features sets conf_load->btf_gen_floats
>>>> + * to true.
>>>> + *
>>>> + * The more confusing case is for features that are enabled unless
>>>> + * skipping them is specified; for example
>>>> + * conf_load->skip_encoding_btf_type_tag. By default - to support
>>>> + * the opt-in model of only enabling features the user asks for -
>>>> + * conf_load->skip_encoding_btf_type_tag is set to true (meaning no
>>>> + * type_tags) and it is only set to false if --btf_features contains
>>>> + * the "type_tag" feature.
>>>> + *
>>>> + * So from the user perspective, all features specified via
>>>> + * --btf_features are enabled, and if a feature is not specified,
>>>> + * it is disabled.
>>>> */
>>>
>>> Sounds reasonable. Maybe also add a line saying that
>>> skip_encoding_btf_decl_tag defaults to false if --btf_features is not
>>> specified to remain backwards compatible?
>>>
>>
>> good idea, will do! Thanks!
>
> I have to catch up with all the comments on this thread, but does this
> mean you're respinning the series now?
>
Yep, I'm respinning now. There were a few small things in Andrii's
suggestions that we might need to figure out - mostly around names - but
there's enough change since the RFC that it would probably be best to
discuss those with the v2 series. Thanks!
Alan
> - Arnaldo
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-13 14:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-11 9:17 [RFC dwarves 0/4] pahole, btf_encoder: support --btf_features Alan Maguire
2023-10-11 9:17 ` [RFC dwarves 1/4] btf_encoder, pahole: move btf encoding options into conf_load Alan Maguire
2023-10-12 12:54 ` Jiri Olsa
2023-10-11 9:17 ` [RFC dwarves 2/4] dwarves: move ARRAY_SIZE() to dwarves.h Alan Maguire
2023-10-11 9:17 ` [RFC dwarves 3/4] pahole: add --btf_features=feature1[,feature2...] support Alan Maguire
2023-10-11 16:28 ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-10-11 16:41 ` Alan Maguire
2023-10-11 19:08 ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-10-11 22:05 ` Alan Maguire
2023-10-11 22:14 ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-10-12 12:35 ` Alan Maguire
2023-10-13 14:17 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-10-13 14:43 ` Alan Maguire [this message]
2023-10-12 12:53 ` Jiri Olsa
2023-10-12 13:48 ` Alan Maguire
2023-10-12 21:19 ` Jiri Olsa
2023-10-13 0:21 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-10-13 11:54 ` Alan Maguire
2023-10-13 18:39 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-10-11 9:17 ` [RFC dwarves 4/4] pahole: add --supported_btf_features to display feature support Alan Maguire
2023-10-13 0:14 ` [RFC dwarves 0/4] pahole, btf_encoder: support --btf_features Andrii Nakryiko
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