From: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
To: Shung-Hsi Yu <shung-hsi.yu@suse.com>, lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, Paul Chaignon <paul@isovalent.com>,
Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Value Tracking in Verifier
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 14:49:18 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <65e109eec79ef_43ad82086c@john.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZeA9Jqug3NqPwjtQ@u94a>
Shung-Hsi Yu wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'd like propose a discussion about BPF verifier itself. To avoid being too
> vague, this proposition limits to value tracking (i.e. var_off and
> *{min,max}_value in bpf_reg_state); taking a very brief look at the
> challenges of current implementation, and maybe alternative implementation
> like PREVAIL[1]. Before heading on to the actual discussion:
> - Unify signed and unsigned min/max tracking[2]
> - Refactor value tracking routines (as set-operations)
> - Tracking relation between values
Sounds interesting to me. Just creating a summarized list of the examples
that have forced the signed/unsigned separation would be valuable and the
reasons why we have both var_off and min,max would be a nice document.
The examples would show why the bit tracking and min/max has resisted
easily being unified.
>
> Admittedly the current topic is a rather narrowly scoped. The discussion
> could be further expanded to be about the verifier in general as needed,
> some (less concrete) ideas to discuss:
> - Further reducing loop/branch states
> - Lazier precision tracking
> - Simplification/refactoring of codebase
> - Documentation improvement
>
>
> Thanks,
> Shung-Hsi Yu
>
> 1: https://vbpf.github.io/
> 2: https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20231108054611.19531-1-shung-hsi.yu@suse.com/
>
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