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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com>,
	"Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@gnu.org>,
	Beau Belgrave <beaub@linux.microsoft.com>,
	Jens Remus <jremus@linux.ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 07/14] unwind_user/deferred: Make unwind deferral requests NMI-safe
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 05:10:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <66B9E72C-4FDF-46DF-9231-BED06A6000D9@goodmis.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250619084813.GG1613633@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>



On June 19, 2025 4:48:13 AM EDT, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 10:44:27AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
>> Luckily, x86 dropped support for !CMPXCHG8B right along with !TSC. So on
>> x86 we good with timestamps, even on 32bit.
>
>Well, not entirely true, local_clock() is not guaranteed monotonic. So
>you might be in for quite a bit of hurt if you rely on that.
>

As long as it is monotonic per task. If it is not, then pretty much all tracers that use it are broken.

-- Steve 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-19  9:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-11  0:54 [PATCH v10 00/14] unwind_user: x86: Deferred unwinding infrastructure Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 01/14] unwind_user: Add user space unwinding API Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 13:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 02/14] unwind_user: Add frame pointer support Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 13:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 15:09     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-23 16:31       ` Indu Bhagat
2025-06-24 20:30         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 03/14] unwind_user: Add compat mode " Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 13:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 15:10     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 17:52       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-06-18 18:37         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 13:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 15:18     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  7:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  8:39         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 04/14] unwind_user/deferred: Add unwind_deferred_trace() Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 13:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 13:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 15:20     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 16:26       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 14:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 15:23     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 14:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 15:29     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  7:54       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  8:44         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 05/14] unwind_user/deferred: Add unwind cache Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 14:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 15:33     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  7:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  8:47         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  9:04           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  9:12             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 06/14] unwind_user/deferred: Add deferred unwinding interface Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 14:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 15:37     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 15:38       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  8:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  8:49         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 18:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 19:09     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 19:36       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  7:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  8:56         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  9:11           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-24 14:03             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-24 22:36     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 07/14] unwind_user/deferred: Make unwind deferral requests NMI-safe Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  8:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  8:37     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  8:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  8:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  9:10           ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2025-06-19  9:24             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  8:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  9:07     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  9:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  9:34         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  9:42         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  9:45           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19 10:19             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19 10:39               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19 13:04                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 08/14] unwind deferred: Use bitmask to determine which callbacks to call Steven Rostedt
2025-06-20  8:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-24 14:55     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-24 15:00       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-24 16:36         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 09/14] unwind deferred: Use SRCU unwind_deferred_task_work() Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 10/14] unwind: Clear unwind_mask on exit back to user space Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 11/14] unwind: Finish up unwind when a task exits Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 12/14] unwind_user/x86: Enable frame pointer unwinding on x86 Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 13/14] perf/x86: Rename and move get_segment_base() and make it global Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 14/14] unwind_user/x86: Enable compat mode frame pointer unwinding on x86 Steven Rostedt
2025-06-12 21:44 ` [PATCH v10 00/14] unwind_user: x86: Deferred unwinding infrastructure Andrii Nakryiko
2025-06-12 22:02   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-06-12 23:30     ` Andrii Nakryiko

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