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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: "Yafang Shao" <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@kernel.org>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"Hou Tao" <houtao1@huawei.com>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	"Song Liu" <song@kernel.org>, "Yonghong Song" <yhs@fb.com>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"KP Singh" <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	"Stanislav Fomichev" <sdf@google.com>,
	"Hao Luo" <haoluo@google.com>, "Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi" <memxor@gmail.com>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bpf: force inc_active()/dec_active() to be inline functions
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2023 20:13:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <679d8d63-ce92-4294-8620-e98c82365b2c@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQ+p4wpd=tKJAiwB34O1y5vv4mibtkt9D-F7sG=rQapcew@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 24, 2023, at 20:00, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 11:32 AM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>>
>> >> If so, why can't we improve the compiler ?
>> >
>> > Agree.
>> > Sounds like a compiler bug.
>>
>> I don't know what you might want to change in the compiler
>> to avoid this. Compilers are free to decide which functions to
>> inline in the absence of noinline or always_inline flags.
>
> Clearly a compiler bug.
> Compilers should not produce false positive warnings regardless
> how inlining went and optimizations performed.

That would be a nice idea, but until we force everyone to
migrate to clang, that's not something in our power. gcc is
well known to throw tons of warnings that depend on inlining:
-Wnull-dereference, -Wmaybe-uninitialized, -Wdiv-by-zero
and other inherently depend on how much gcc can infer from
inlining and dead code elimination.

In this case, it doesn't even require a lot of imagination,
the code is literally written as undefined behavior when
the first call is inlined and the second one is not, I don't
see what one would do in gcc to /not/ warn about passing
an uninitialized register into a function call, other than
moving the warning before inlining and DCE as clang does.

>> One difference between gcc and clang is that gcc tries to
>> be smart about warnings by using information from inlining
>> to produce better warnings, while clang never uses information
>> across function boundaries for generated warnings, so it won't
>> find this one, but also would ignore an unconditional use
>> of the uninitialized variable.
>>
>> >> If we have to change the kernel, what about the change below?
>> >
>> > To workaround the compiler bug we can simply init flag=0 to silence
>> > the warn, but even that is silly. Passing flag=0 into irqrestore is buggy.
>>
>> Maybe inc_active() could return the flags instead of modifying
>> the stack variable? that would also result in slightly better
>> code when it's not inlined.
>
> Which gcc are we talking about here that is so buggy?

I think I only tried versions 8 through 13 for this one, but
can check others as well.

     Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-24 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-22  7:47 [PATCH] bpf: force inc_active()/dec_active() to be inline functions Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-23 14:24 ` Yafang Shao
2023-07-23 16:46   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-07-23 18:31     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-24 18:00       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-07-24 18:13         ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2023-07-24 18:29           ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-24 19:15             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-07-24 20:41               ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-25 18:15                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-07-25 20:27                   ` Arnd Bergmann

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