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From: Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>, Networking <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Kernel Team <Kernel-team@fb.com>,
	"jolsa@kernel.org" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"mhiramat@kernel.org" <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 bpf-next 3/5] ftrace: introduce FTRACE_OPS_FL_SHARE_IPMODIFY
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 02:04:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6A7EF1C7-471B-4652-99C1-87C72C223C59@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220714204817.2889e280@rorschach.local.home>



> On Jul 14, 2022, at 5:48 PM, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 00:13:51 +0000
> Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com> wrote:
> 
>> I think there is one more problem here. If we force all direct trampoline
>> set IPMODIFY, and remove the SHARE_IPMODIFY flag. It may cause confusion 
>> and/or extra work here (__ftrace_hash_update_ipmodify). 
> 
> I'm saying that the caller (BPF) does not need to set IPMODIFY. Just
> change the ftrace.c to treat IPMODIFY the same as direct. In fact, the
> two should be mutually exclusive (from a ftrace point of view). That
> is, if DIRECT is set, then IPMODIFY must not be.
> 
> Again, ftrace will take care of the accounting of if a rec has both
> IPMODIFY and DIRECT on it.
> 
>> 
>> Say __ftrace_hash_update_ipmodify() tries to attach an ops with IPMODIFY, 
>> and found the rec already has IPMODIFY. At this point, we have to iterate
>> all ftrace ops (do_for_each_ftrace_op) to confirm whether the IPMODIFY is 
>> from 
> 
> What I'm suggesting is that a DIRECT ops will never set IPMODIFY.

Aha, this the point I misunderstood. I thought DIRECT ops would always
set IPMODIFY (as it does now). 

> Like
> I mentioned before, ftrace doesn't care if the direct trampoline
> modifies IP or not. All ftrace will do is ask the owner of the direct
> ops if it is safe to have an IP modify attached to it or not. And at
> the same time will tell the direct ops owner that it is adding an
> IPMODIFY ops such that it can take the appropriate actions.
> 
> In other words, IPMODIFY on the rec means that it can not attach
> anything else with an IPMODIFY on it.
> 
> The direct ops should only set the DIRECT flag. If an IPMODIFY ops is
> being added, if it already has an IPMODIFY then it will fail right there.
> 
> If direct is set, then a loop for the direct ops will be done and the
> callback is made. If the direct ops is OK with the IPMODIFY then it
> will adjust itself to work with the IPMODIFY and the IPMODIFY will
> continue to be added (and then set the rec IPMODIFY flag).
> 
>> 
>> 1) a direct ops that can share IPMODIFY, or 
>> 2) a direct ops that cannot share IPMODIFY, or 
>> 3) another non-direct ops with IPMODIFY. 
>> 
>> For the 1), this attach works, while for 2) and 3), the attach doesn't work. 
>> 
>> OTOH, with current version (v2), we trust the direct ops to set or clear 
>> IPMODIFY. rec with IPMODIFY makes it clear that it cannot share with another
>> ops with IPMODIFY. Then we don't have to iterate over all ftrace ops here. 
> 
> The only time an iterate should be done is if rec->flags is DIRECT and !IPMODIFY.

Yeah, this makes sense. And this shouldn't be too expensive.

> 
>> 
>> Does this make sense? Did I miss some better solutions?
> 
> Did I fill in the holes? ;-)

You sure did. :)

Thanks,
Song


  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-15  2:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-02 19:37 [PATCH v2 bpf-next 0/5] ftrace: host klp and bpf trampoline together Song Liu
2022-06-02 19:37 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 1/5] ftrace: allow customized flags for ftrace_direct_multi ftrace_ops Song Liu
2022-07-13 23:18   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-14  0:11     ` Song Liu
2022-07-14  0:38       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-14  1:42         ` Song Liu
2022-07-14  2:55           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-14  4:37             ` Song Liu
2022-07-14 13:22               ` Steven Rostedt
2022-06-02 19:37 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 2/5] ftrace: add modify_ftrace_direct_multi_nolock Song Liu
2022-06-02 19:37 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 3/5] ftrace: introduce FTRACE_OPS_FL_SHARE_IPMODIFY Song Liu
2022-06-06  8:20   ` Jiri Olsa
2022-06-06 15:35     ` Song Liu
2022-07-14  0:33   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-15  0:13     ` Song Liu
2022-07-15  0:48       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-15  2:04         ` Song Liu [this message]
2022-07-15  2:46           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-15  2:50             ` Song Liu
2022-07-15 17:42               ` Song Liu
2022-07-15 19:12                 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-15 19:49                   ` Song Liu
2022-07-15 19:59                     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-15 20:21                       ` Song Liu
2022-07-15 21:29                         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-15 21:48                           ` Song Liu
2022-07-15 21:50                             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-06-02 19:37 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 4/5] bpf, x64: Allow to use caller address from stack Song Liu
2022-06-02 19:37 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 5/5] bpf: trampoline: support FTRACE_OPS_FL_SHARE_IPMODIFY Song Liu
2022-07-06 19:38   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-06 21:37     ` Song Liu
2022-07-06 21:40       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-06 21:50         ` Song Liu
2022-07-06 22:15         ` Song Liu
2022-07-06 22:29           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-07  0:19             ` Song Liu
2022-07-07  1:18               ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-07  2:11                 ` Song Liu
2022-06-06 22:57 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 0/5] ftrace: host klp and bpf trampoline together Song Liu
2022-07-11 23:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-12  5:15   ` Song Liu
2022-07-12 13:36     ` Steven Rostedt

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