From: Bui Quang Minh <minhquangbui99@gmail.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
"Xuan Zhuo" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Eugenio Pérez" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
"Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
"Stanislav Fomichev" <sdf@fomichev.me>,
virtualization@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 1/3] virtio-net: make refill work a per receive queue work
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2025 22:25:34 +0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <750b2296-9009-45d8-9e18-a47ebcfb912d@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACGkMEuasGDh=wT0n5b5QFDSNNBK7muipBKHb2v5eoKCU0NWDw@mail.gmail.com>
On 12/31/25 14:30, Jason Wang wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 12:29 AM Bui Quang Minh
> <minhquangbui99@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12/26/25 14:37, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2025 at 09:31:26AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2025 at 12:27 AM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 25, 2025 at 03:33:29PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2025 at 9:48 AM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2025 at 09:37:14AM +0800, Xuan Zhuo wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm wondering why we even need this refill work. Why not simply let NAPI retry
>>>>>>>> the refill on its next run if the refill fails? That would seem much simpler.
>>>>>>>> This refill work complicates maintenance and often introduces a lot of
>>>>>>>> concurrency issues and races.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> refill work can refill from GFP_KERNEL, napi only from ATOMIC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And if GFP_ATOMIC failed, aggressively retrying might not be a great idea.
>>>>>> Btw, I see some drivers are doing things as Xuan said. E.g
>>>>>> mlx5e_napi_poll() did:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> busy |= INDIRECT_CALL_2(rq->post_wqes,
>>>>>> mlx5e_post_rx_mpwqes,
>>>>>> mlx5e_post_rx_wqes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if (busy) {
>>>>>> if (likely(mlx5e_channel_no_affinity_change(c))) {
>>>>>> work_done = budget;
>>>>>> goto out;
>>>>>> ...
>>>>> is busy a GFP_ATOMIC allocation failure?
>>>> Yes, and I think the logic here is to fallback to ksoftirqd if the
>>>> allocation fails too much.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>> True. I just don't know if this works better or worse than the
>>> current design, but it is certainly simpler and we never actually
>>> worried about the performance of the current one.
>>>
>>>
>>> So you know, let's roll with this approach.
>>>
>>> I do however ask that some testing is done on the patch forcing these OOM
>>> situations just to see if we are missing something obvious.
>>>
>>>
>>> the beauty is the patch can be very small:
>>> 1. patch 1 do not schedule refill ever, just retrigger napi
>>> 2. remove all the now dead code
>>>
>>> this way patch 1 will be small and backportable to stable.
>> I've tried 1. with this patch
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
>> index 1bb3aeca66c6..9e890aff2d95 100644
>> --- a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
>> +++ b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
>> @@ -3035,7 +3035,7 @@ static int virtnet_receive_packets(struct virtnet_info *vi,
>> }
>>
>> static int virtnet_receive(struct receive_queue *rq, int budget,
>> - unsigned int *xdp_xmit)
>> + unsigned int *xdp_xmit, bool *retry_refill)
>> {
>> struct virtnet_info *vi = rq->vq->vdev->priv;
>> struct virtnet_rq_stats stats = {};
>> @@ -3047,12 +3047,8 @@ static int virtnet_receive(struct receive_queue *rq, int budget,
>> packets = virtnet_receive_packets(vi, rq, budget, xdp_xmit, &stats);
>>
>> if (rq->vq->num_free > min((unsigned int)budget, virtqueue_get_vring_size(rq->vq)) / 2) {
>> - if (!try_fill_recv(vi, rq, GFP_ATOMIC)) {
>> - spin_lock(&vi->refill_lock);
>> - if (vi->refill_enabled)
>> - schedule_delayed_work(&vi->refill, 0);
>> - spin_unlock(&vi->refill_lock);
>> - }
>> + if (!try_fill_recv(vi, rq, GFP_ATOMIC))
>> + *retry_refill = true;
>> }
>>
>> u64_stats_set(&stats.packets, packets);
>> @@ -3129,18 +3125,18 @@ static int virtnet_poll(struct napi_struct *napi, int budget)
>> struct send_queue *sq;
>> unsigned int received;
>> unsigned int xdp_xmit = 0;
>> - bool napi_complete;
>> + bool napi_complete, retry_refill = false;
>>
>> virtnet_poll_cleantx(rq, budget);
>>
>> - received = virtnet_receive(rq, budget, &xdp_xmit);
>> + received = virtnet_receive(rq, budget, &xdp_xmit, &retry_refill);
>> rq->packets_in_napi += received;
>>
>> if (xdp_xmit & VIRTIO_XDP_REDIR)
>> xdp_do_flush();
>>
>> /* Out of packets? */
>> - if (received < budget) {
>> + if (received < budget && !retry_refill) {
> But you didn't return the budget when we need to retry here?
You are right. Returning budget when we need to retry solves the issue. In __napi_poll, if we return budget, it will check whether we have pending disable by calling napi_disable_pending. If so, the NAPI is descheduled and we can napi_disable it.
Thanks,
Quang Minh.
>
>> napi_complete = virtqueue_napi_complete(napi, rq->vq, received);
>> /* Intentionally not taking dim_lock here. This may result in a
>> * spurious net_dim call. But if that happens virtnet_rx_dim_work
>> @@ -3230,9 +3226,11 @@ static int virtnet_open(struct net_device *dev)
>>
>> for (i = 0; i < vi->max_queue_pairs; i++) {
>> if (i < vi->curr_queue_pairs)
>> - /* Make sure we have some buffers: if oom use wq. */
>> - if (!try_fill_recv(vi, &vi->rq[i], GFP_KERNEL))
>> - schedule_delayed_work(&vi->refill, 0);
>> + /* If this fails, we will retry later in
>> + * NAPI poll, which is scheduled in the below
>> + * virtnet_enable_queue_pair
>> + */
>> + try_fill_recv(vi, &vi->rq[i], GFP_KERNEL);
>>
>> err = virtnet_enable_queue_pair(vi, i);
>> if (err < 0)
>> @@ -3473,15 +3471,15 @@ static void __virtnet_rx_resume(struct virtnet_info *vi,
>> bool refill)
>> {
>> bool running = netif_running(vi->dev);
>> - bool schedule_refill = false;
>>
>> - if (refill && !try_fill_recv(vi, rq, GFP_KERNEL))
>> - schedule_refill = true;
>> + if (refill)
>> + /* If this fails, we will retry later in NAPI poll, which is
>> + * scheduled in the below virtnet_napi_enable
>> + */
>> + try_fill_recv(vi, rq, GFP_KERNEL);
>> +
>> if (running)
>> virtnet_napi_enable(rq);
>> -
>> - if (schedule_refill)
>> - schedule_delayed_work(&vi->refill, 0);
>> }
>>
>> static void virtnet_rx_resume_all(struct virtnet_info *vi)
>> @@ -3777,6 +3775,7 @@ static int virtnet_set_queues(struct virtnet_info *vi, u16 queue_pairs)
>> struct virtio_net_rss_config_trailer old_rss_trailer;
>> struct net_device *dev = vi->dev;
>> struct scatterlist sg;
>> + int i;
>>
>> if (!vi->has_cvq || !virtio_has_feature(vi->vdev, VIRTIO_NET_F_MQ))
>> return 0;
>> @@ -3829,11 +3828,8 @@ static int virtnet_set_queues(struct virtnet_info *vi, u16 queue_pairs)
>> }
>> succ:
>> vi->curr_queue_pairs = queue_pairs;
>> - /* virtnet_open() will refill when device is going to up. */
>> - spin_lock_bh(&vi->refill_lock);
>> - if (dev->flags & IFF_UP && vi->refill_enabled)
>> - schedule_delayed_work(&vi->refill, 0);
>> - spin_unlock_bh(&vi->refill_lock);
>> + for (i = 0; i < vi->curr_queue_pairs; i++)
>> + try_fill_recv(vi, &vi->rq[i], GFP_KERNEL);
>>
>> return 0;
>> }
>>
>>
>> But I got an issue with selftests/drivers/net/hw/xsk_reconfig.py. This
>> test sets up XDP zerocopy (Xsk) but does not provide any descriptors to
>> the fill ring. So xsk_pool does not have any descriptors and
>> try_fill_recv will always fail. The RX NAPI keeps polling. Later, when
>> we want to disable the xsk_pool, in virtnet_xsk_pool_disable path,
>>
>> virtnet_xsk_pool_disable
>> -> virtnet_rq_bind_xsk_pool
>> -> virtnet_rx_pause
>> -> __virtnet_rx_pause
>> -> virtnet_napi_disable
>> -> napi_disable
>>
>> We get stuck in napi_disable because the RX NAPI is still polling.
> napi_disable will set NAPI_DISABLE bit, no?
>
>> In drivers/net/ethernet/mellanox/mlx5, AFAICS, it uses state bit for
>> synchronization between xsk setup (mlx5e_xsk_setup_pool) with RX NAPI
>> (mlx5e_napi_poll) without using napi_disable/enable. However, in
>> drivers/net/ethernet/intel/ice,
>>
>> ice_xsk_pool_setup
>> -> ice_qp_dis
>> -> ice_qvec_toggle_napi
>> -> napi_disable
>>
>> it still uses napi_disable. Did I miss something in the above patch?
>> I'll try to look into using another synchronization instead of
>> napi_disable/enable in xsk_pool setup path too.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Quang Minh.
>>
> Thanks
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-31 15:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-23 15:25 [PATCH net 0/3] virtio-net: fix the deadlock when disabling rx NAPI Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-23 15:25 ` [PATCH net 1/3] virtio-net: make refill work a per receive queue work Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-24 0:52 ` Jason Wang
2025-12-24 1:37 ` Xuan Zhuo
2025-12-24 1:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-12-24 16:49 ` Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-25 15:55 ` Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-25 16:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-12-25 7:33 ` Jason Wang
2025-12-25 16:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-12-26 1:31 ` Jason Wang
2025-12-26 7:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-12-29 2:57 ` Jason Wang
2025-12-30 16:28 ` Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-30 16:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-12-31 7:30 ` Jason Wang
2025-12-31 15:25 ` Bui Quang Minh [this message]
2025-12-24 16:43 ` Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-24 1:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-12-24 10:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-12-24 17:03 ` Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-23 15:25 ` [PATCH net 2/3] virtio-net: ensure rx NAPI is enabled before enabling refill work Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-24 1:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-12-24 17:49 ` Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-24 10:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-12-23 15:25 ` [PATCH net 3/3] virtio-net: schedule the pending refill work after being enabled Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-24 10:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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