From: Yonghong Song <yhs@meta.com>
To: Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
kernel-team@fb.com, Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@kernel.org>,
bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v7 3/4] bpf: Add kfunc bpf_rcu_read_lock/unlock()
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 15:42:26 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8166d67a-de10-7c6a-c0c5-976fbac37a55@meta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1b1d17a5-8178-0cf8-21c3-b60c7f011942@linux.dev>
On 11/21/22 2:56 PM, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:
> On 11/21/22 12:01 PM, Yonghong Song wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/21/22 11:41 AM, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:
>>> On 11/21/22 9:05 AM, Yonghong Song wrote:
>>>> @@ -4704,6 +4715,15 @@ static int check_ptr_to_btf_access(struct
>>>> bpf_verifier_env *env,
>>>> return -EACCES;
>>>> }
>>>> + /* Access rcu protected memory */
>>>> + if ((reg->type & MEM_RCU) && env->prog->aux->sleepable &&
>>>> + !env->cur_state->active_rcu_lock) {
>>>> + verbose(env,
>>>> + "R%d is ptr_%s access rcu-protected memory with off=%d,
>>>> not rcu protected\n",
>>>> + regno, tname, off);
>>>> + return -EACCES;
>>>> + }
>>>> +
>>>> if (env->ops->btf_struct_access && !type_is_alloc(reg->type)) {
>>>> if (!btf_is_kernel(reg->btf)) {
>>>> verbose(env, "verifier internal error: reg->btf must
>>>> be kernel btf\n");
>>>> @@ -4731,12 +4751,27 @@ static int check_ptr_to_btf_access(struct
>>>> bpf_verifier_env *env,
>>>> if (ret < 0)
>>>> return ret;
>>>> + /* The value is a rcu pointer. The load needs to be in a rcu
>>>> lock region,
>>>> + * similar to rcu_dereference().
>>>> + */
>>>> + if ((flag & MEM_RCU) && env->prog->aux->sleepable &&
>>>> !env->cur_state->active_rcu_lock) {
>>>> + verbose(env,
>>>> + "R%d is rcu dereference ptr_%s with off=%d, not in
>>>> rcu_read_lock region\n",
>>>> + regno, tname, off);
>>>> + return -EACCES;
>>>> + }
>>>
>>> Would this make the existing rdonly use case fail?
>>>
>>> SEC("fentry.s/" SYS_PREFIX "sys_getpgid")
>>> int task_real_parent(void *ctx)
>>> {
>>> struct task_struct *task, *real_parent;
>>>
>>> task = bpf_get_current_task_btf();
>>> real_parent = task->real_parent;
>>> bpf_printk("pid %u\n", real_parent->pid);
>>> return 0;
>>> }
>>
>> Right, it will fail. To fix the issue, user can do
>> bpf_rcu_read_lock();
>> real_parent = task->real_parent;
>> bpf_printk("pid %u\n", real_parent->pid);
>> bpf_rcu_read_unlock();
>>
>> But this raised a good question. How do we deal with
>> legacy sleepable programs with newly-added rcu tagging
>> capabilities.
>>
>> My current option is to error out if rcu usage is not right.
>> But this might break existing sleepable programs.
>>
>> Another option intends to not break existing, like above,
>> codes. In this case, MEM_RCU will not tagged if it is
>> not inside bpf_rcu_read_lock() region.
>
> hmm.... it is to make MEM_RCU to mean a reg is protected by the current
> active_rcu_lock or not?
Yes, for example, in 'real_parent = task->real_parent' where
'real_parent' in task_struct is tagged with __rcu in the struct
definition. So the 'real_parent' variable in the above assignment
will be tagged with MEM_RCU.
>
>> In this case, the above non-rcu-protected code should work. And the
>> following should work as well although it is a little
>> bit awkward.
>> real_parent = task->real_parent; // real_parent not tagged with rcu
>> bpf_rcu_read_lock();
>> bpf_printk("pid %u\n", real_parent->pid);
>> bpf_rcu_read_unlock();
>
> I think it should be fine. bpf_rcu_read_lock() just not useful in this
> example but nothing break or crash. Also, after bpf_rcu_read_unlock(),
> real_parent will continue to be readable because the MEM_RCU is not set?
That is correct. the variable real_parent is not tagged with MEM_RCU
and it will stay that way for the rest of its life cycle.
With new PTR_TRUSTED mechanism, real_parent will be marked as normal
PTR_TO_BTF_ID and it is not marked as PTR_UNTRUSTED for backward
compatibility. So in the above code, real_parent->pid is just a normal
load (not related to rcu/trusted/untrusted). People may think it
is okay, but actually it does not okay. Verifier could add more state
to issue proper warnings, but I am not sure whether it is worthwhile
or not. As you mentioned, nothing breaks. It is just the current
existing way. So we should be able to live with this.
>
> On top of the active_rcu_lock, should MEM_RCU be set only when it is
> dereferenced from a PTR_TRUSTED ptr (or with ref_obj_id != 0)?
I didn't consider PTR_TRUSTED because it is just introduced yesterday...
My current implementation inherits the old ptr_to_btf_id way where by
default any ptr_to_btf_id is trusted. But since we have PTR_TRUSTED
we should be able to use it for a stronger guarantee.
> I am thinking about the following more common case:
>
> /* bpf_get_current_task_btf() may need to be changed
> * to set PTR_TRUSTED at the retval?
> */
> /* task: PTR_TO_BTF_ID | PTR_TRUSTED */
> task = bpf_get_current_task_btf();
>
> bpf_rcu_read_lock();
>
> /* real_parent: PTR_TO_BTF_ID | PTR_TRUSTED | MEM_RCU */
> real_parent = task->real_parent;
>
> /* bpf_task_acquire() needs to change to use
> refcount_inc_not_zero */
> real_parent = bpf_task_acquire(real_parent);
>
> bpf_rcu_read_unlock();
>
> /* real_parent is accessible here (after checking NULL) and
> * can be passed to kfunc
> */
>
Yes, the above is a typical use case. Or alternatively after
real_parent = task->real_parent;
/* use real_parent inside the bpf_rcu_read_lock() region */
I will try to utilize PTR_TRUSTED concept in the next revision.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-21 23:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-21 17:05 [PATCH bpf-next v7 0/4] bpf: Add bpf_rcu_read_lock() support Yonghong Song
2022-11-21 17:05 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 1/4] compiler_types: Define __rcu as __attribute__((btf_type_tag("rcu"))) Yonghong Song
2022-11-21 17:05 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 2/4] bpf: Abstract out functions to check sleepable helpers Yonghong Song
2022-11-22 17:06 ` KP Singh
2022-11-21 17:05 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 3/4] bpf: Add kfunc bpf_rcu_read_lock/unlock() Yonghong Song
2022-11-21 19:41 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-21 20:01 ` Yonghong Song
2022-11-21 22:56 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-21 23:42 ` Yonghong Song [this message]
2022-11-22 2:03 ` John Fastabend
2022-11-22 4:16 ` Yonghong Song
2022-11-22 5:48 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-22 6:32 ` Yonghong Song
2022-11-21 17:05 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 4/4] selftests/bpf: Add tests for bpf_rcu_read_lock() Yonghong Song
2022-11-22 1:59 ` John Fastabend
2022-11-22 4:09 ` Yonghong Song
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