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From: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
To: Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Nicholas Carlini <npc@anthropic.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	 Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Emil Tsalapatis <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
	 kkd@meta.com, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf v2 2/7] bpf: Preserve packet pointer class displacement in regsafe()
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2026 23:40:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83e2ad1e23774de204372c7e3d3bddc8f570c099.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260905083418.3723623-3-memxor@gmail.com>

On Sat, 2026-09-05 at 10:34 +0200, Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi wrote:
> regsafe() maps packet pointer IDs between states and checks that each
> current register range is a subset of the corresponding explored
> register range. It does not, however, preserve the displacement between
> registers that share a packet pointer ID.
> 
> This is unsound because packet range is shared by ID. A bounds check on
> one class member updates every member, and a later access can consume the
> range through another member. Commit 022ac0750883 ("bpf: use reg->var_off
> instead of reg->off for pointers") folded the fixed pointer offset into
> r64 and removed the old off equality check, so two individually narrower
> registers can prune even when their displacement has changed. The
> explored path can then license an out-of-bounds packet access on the
> pruned path.
> 
> Requiring equal r64 bases would prevent the bug, but would also reject a
> safe uniform translation of the whole class. Instead, record the base
> translation seen for the first packet pointer in each ID mapping and
> require every subsequent member to have the same translation. This keeps
> the relative displacement invariant while retaining pruning for uniformly
> translated classes. Packet pointers without an ID remain unaffected.
> 
> Fixes: 022ac0750883 ("bpf: use reg->var_off instead of reg->off for pointers")
> Reported-by: Nicholas Carlini <npc@anthropic.com>
> Suggested-by: Nicholas Carlini <npc@anthropic.com>
> Signed-off-by: Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>
> ---

So, essentially this is the same problem as `id + ADD_CONST` tracking
for scalar values, where the actual difference is stored in `delta` field.
In other words, that would be an undo of 022ac0750883 for packet pointers.

What about the original suggested fix:

            /* id relations must be preserved */
            if (!check_ids(rold->id, rcur->id, idmap))
                    return false;
    +       if (rold->id && rold->r64.base != rcur->r64.base)
    +               return false;
            /* new val must satisfy old val knowledge */
            return range_within(rold, rcur) &&
                   tnum_in(rold->var_off, rcur->var_off);

Is it that bad?
Given this logic in adjust_ptr_min_max_vals:

    case BPF_ADD:
        ...
		if (reg_is_pkt_pointer(ptr_reg))
			if (!known)
				dst_reg->id = ++env->id_gen;

I'd expect it to be okay.

...

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-06  6:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-05  8:34 [PATCH bpf v2 0/7] Misc bug fixes - part 5 Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-09-05  8:34 ` [PATCH bpf v2 1/7] bpf: Make post-verification instruction rewrites killable Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-09-11 22:56   ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-09-05  8:34 ` [PATCH bpf v2 2/7] bpf: Preserve packet pointer class displacement in regsafe() Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-09-05  9:25   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-05 20:46   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-06  6:40   ` Eduard Zingerman [this message]
2026-09-06  7:04     ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-09-06 15:11       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-05  8:34 ` [PATCH bpf v2 3/7] selftests/bpf: Test packet pointer class displacement pruning Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-09-05  9:10   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-05 20:48   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-05  8:34 ` [PATCH bpf v2 4/7] bpf: Reject fall-through across subprogram boundaries Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-09-05 20:29   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-05  8:34 ` [PATCH bpf v2 5/7] selftests/bpf: Test poisoned subprogram terminator Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-09-05  8:34 ` [PATCH bpf v2 6/7] bpf: Assign lock identity to callback map values Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-09-05  9:25   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-12  0:23   ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-09-05  8:34 ` [PATCH bpf v2 7/7] selftests/bpf: Check callback map value lock identity Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-09-05  9:10   ` bot+bpf-ci

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