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From: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>,
	Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	"Jose E. Marchesi" <jose.marchesi@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [bpf-next v3 11/12] bpf: do check_nocsr_stack_contract() for ARG_ANYTHING helper params
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 03:03:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86c8004aab94e0e833b438ef2fba25f0835a9aa8.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQ+2SC6w2h+bNBEZ-R--RVk5zgz2AA-x2=7X8azL26ua0Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 2024-07-15 at 19:00 -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 4:02 PM Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

> > This might lead to a surprising behavior in combination with nocsr
> > rewrites, e.g. consider the program below:
> > 
> >      1: r1 = 1;
> >         /* nocsr pattern with stack offset -16 */
> >      2: *(u64 *)(r10 - 16) = r1;
> >      3: call %[bpf_get_smp_processor_id];
> >      4: r1 = *(u64 *)(r10 - 16);
> >      5: r1 = r10;
> >      6: r1 += -8;
> >      7: r2 = 1;
> >      8: r3 = r10;
> >      9: r3 += -16;
> >         /* bpf_probe_read_kernel(dst: &fp[-8], size: 1, src: &fp[-16]) */
> >     10: call %[bpf_probe_read_kernel];
> >     11: exit;
> > 
> > Here nocsr rewrite logic would remove instructions (2) and (4).
> > However, (2) writes a value that is later read by a call at (10).
> 
> This makes no sense to me.
> This bpf prog is broken.
> If probe_read is used to read stack it will read garbage.
> JITs and the verifier are allowed to do any transformation
> that keeps the program semantics and safety.

I tried to run the following program
(should have run it earlier):

SEC("raw_tp")
__retval(42)
__success
int bpf_probe_read_kernel_stack_ptr(void *ctx)
{
	unsigned long a = 17;
	unsigned long b = 42;
	int err;

	err = bpf_probe_read_kernel(&a, 8, &b);
	if (err)
		return -1;
	return a;
}

And indeed, it does not produce expected result,
the retval varies around 22079.
However, I don't really understand why this program is broken.
E.g. from C compiler pov pointer &b escapes, and compiler is not
really allowed to replace object at that offset with garbage.
Is it a limitation of the bpf_probe_read_kernel() that it cannot read
BPF program stack?

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-16 10:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-15 23:01 [bpf-next v3 00/12] no_caller_saved_registers attribute for helper calls Eduard Zingerman
2024-07-15 23:01 ` [bpf-next v3 01/12] bpf: add a get_helper_proto() utility function Eduard Zingerman
2024-07-15 23:01 ` [bpf-next v3 02/12] bpf: no_caller_saved_registers attribute for helper calls Eduard Zingerman
2024-07-16  1:51   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-07-16  5:34     ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-07-20  2:00       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-07-22 18:42         ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-07-15 23:01 ` [bpf-next v3 03/12] bpf, x86, riscv, arm: no_caller_saved_registers for bpf_get_smp_processor_id() Eduard Zingerman
2024-07-15 23:01 ` [bpf-next v3 04/12] selftests/bpf: extract utility function for BPF disassembly Eduard Zingerman
2024-07-15 23:01 ` [bpf-next v3 05/12] selftests/bpf: print correct offset for pseudo calls in disasm_insn() Eduard Zingerman
2024-07-15 23:01 ` [bpf-next v3 06/12] selftests/bpf: no need to track next_match_pos in struct test_loader Eduard Zingerman
2024-07-15 23:01 ` [bpf-next v3 07/12] selftests/bpf: extract test_loader->expect_msgs as a data structure Eduard Zingerman
2024-07-15 23:01 ` [bpf-next v3 08/12] selftests/bpf: allow checking xlated programs in verifier_* tests Eduard Zingerman
2024-07-15 23:01 ` [bpf-next v3 09/12] selftests/bpf: __arch_* macro to limit test cases to specific archs Eduard Zingerman
2024-07-15 23:01 ` [bpf-next v3 10/12] selftests/bpf: test no_caller_saved_registers spill/fill removal Eduard Zingerman
2024-07-15 23:02 ` [bpf-next v3 11/12] bpf: do check_nocsr_stack_contract() for ARG_ANYTHING helper params Eduard Zingerman
2024-07-16  2:00   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-07-16 10:03     ` Eduard Zingerman [this message]
2024-07-16 18:15       ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-07-20  1:54         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-07-20  1:58           ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-07-15 23:02 ` [bpf-next v3 12/12] selftests/bpf: check nocsr contract for bpf_probe_read_kernel() Eduard Zingerman

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