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From: Jakub Sitnicki <jakub@cloudflare.com>
To: Jason Xing <kerneljasonxing@gmail.com>
Cc: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf.kernel@gmail.com>,
	 Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	 John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,  bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@cloudflare.com,  Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	 Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 3/6] bpf: Allow skb extensions to survive packet scrubbing
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2026 13:39:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875x2951re.fsf@cloudflare.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL+tcoBPv2_yMZrrvgNT7kkL9tCmAfUZmsr7+0qYukRmYJb6gQ@mail.gmail.com> (Jason Xing's message of "Fri, 17 Jul 2026 19:30:12 +0200")

On Fri, Jul 17, 2026 at 07:30 PM +02, Jason Xing wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2026 at 5:06 PM Jason Xing <kerneljasonxing@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2026 at 3:00 PM Jakub Sitnicki <jakub@cloudflare.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 16, 2026 at 05:11 AM -07, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
>> > > On 07/14, Jakub Sitnicki wrote:
>> > >> skb_scrub_packet() drops all skb extensions unconditionally via
>> > >> skb_ext_reset(). It runs on tunnel encap/decap (ip_tunnel_rcv,
>> > >> vxlan_rcv, etc.) and cross-netns forwarding (dev_forward_skb).
>> > >>
>> > >> This makes it impossible for a BPF program to pass metadata via
>> > >> bpf_skb_ext through a tunnel or across a netns boundary. The extension
>> > >> is always lost at the scrub point.
>> > >>
>> > >> Introduce skb_ext_scrub() which consults each active extension before
>> > >> discarding it. Extensions that request preservation are kept while the
>> > >> rest are torn down. When the extension slab is shared with clones, COW
>> > >> ensures isolation. Replace the skb_ext_reset() call in
>> > >> skb_scrub_packet() with skb_ext_scrub().
>> > >>
>> > >> Expose the opt-in mechanism to BPF via the BPF_SKB_EXT_F_NO_SCRUB flag
>> > >> for bpf_dynptr_from_skb_ext(). A program that sets this flag when
>> > >> creating the extension signals that its metadata should survive
>> > >> scrubbing.
>> > >>
>> > >> Signed-off-by: Jakub Sitnicki <jakub@cloudflare.com>
>> > >> ---
>> > >>  include/linux/bpf.h      |  1 +
>> > >>  include/linux/skbuff.h   |  2 ++
>> > >>  include/uapi/linux/bpf.h |  3 +-
>> > >>  net/core/filter.c        | 11 +++++--
>> > >>  net/core/skbuff.c        | 82 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
>> > >>  net/ipv4/udp.c           |  2 +-
>> > >>  6 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
>> > >>
>> > >> diff --git a/include/linux/bpf.h b/include/linux/bpf.h
>> > >> index 6b918a5b61bf..a46ca53c5b27 100644
>> > >> --- a/include/linux/bpf.h
>> > >> +++ b/include/linux/bpf.h
>> > >> @@ -4214,6 +4214,7 @@ static inline int bpf_map_check_op_flags(struct bpf_map *map, u64 flags, u64 all
>> > >>  #ifdef CONFIG_BPF_SKB_EXT
>> > >>
>> > >>  struct bpf_skb_ext {
>> > >> +    u64 flags;
>> > >>      u8 buf[CONFIG_BPF_SKB_EXT_SIZE] __aligned(8);
>> > >>  };
>> > >>
>> > >> diff --git a/include/linux/skbuff.h b/include/linux/skbuff.h
>> > >> index 584d8440d352..66afa5489007 100644
>> > >> --- a/include/linux/skbuff.h
>> > >> +++ b/include/linux/skbuff.h
>> > >> @@ -5063,6 +5063,7 @@ void *__skb_ext_set(struct sk_buff *skb, enum skb_ext_id id,
>> > >>  void *skb_ext_add(struct sk_buff *skb, enum skb_ext_id id);
>> > >>  void __skb_ext_del(struct sk_buff *skb, enum skb_ext_id id);
>> > >>  void __skb_ext_put(struct skb_ext *ext);
>> > >> +void skb_ext_scrub(struct sk_buff *skb);
>> > >>
>> > >>  static inline void skb_ext_put(struct sk_buff *skb)
>> > >>  {
>> > >> @@ -5132,6 +5133,7 @@ static inline bool skb_has_extensions(struct sk_buff *skb)
>> > >>  static inline void __skb_ext_put(struct skb_ext *ext) {}
>> > >>  static inline void skb_ext_put(struct sk_buff *skb) {}
>> > >>  static inline void skb_ext_reset(struct sk_buff *skb) {}
>> > >> +static inline void skb_ext_scrub(struct sk_buff *skb) {}
>> > >>  static inline void skb_ext_del(struct sk_buff *skb, int unused) {}
>> > >>  static inline void __skb_ext_copy(struct sk_buff *d, const struct sk_buff *s) {}
>> > >>  static inline void skb_ext_copy(struct sk_buff *dst, const struct sk_buff *s) {}
>> > >> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h b/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h
>> > >> index 3eee4467422d..02da170205de 100644
>> > >> --- a/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h
>> > >> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h
>> > >> @@ -7734,7 +7734,8 @@ struct bpf_insn_array_value {
>> > >>
>> > >>  /* Flags to control bpf_dynptr_from_skb_ext() behavior. */
>> > >>  enum {
>> > >> -    BPF_SKB_EXT_F_CREATE = (1ULL << 0),
>> > >> +    BPF_SKB_EXT_F_CREATE    = (1ULL << 0),
>> > >> +    BPF_SKB_EXT_F_NO_SCRUB  = (1ULL << 1),
>> > >
>> > > Do I understand correctly that you do prefer the NO_SCRUB mode? Any reason
>> > > we need to have scrub mode? If it's all produced/consumed by bpf, maybe
>> > > we can just carry this data unconditionally instead of having a SCRUB/NO_SCRUB
>> > > option?
>
> After giving it more thought, I vote for only no_scrub mode because I
> don't see any reason why we still use scrub mode. But it's just my
> opinion.
>
> My question is if we in the future really need the scrub mode, it's
> still possible to add this option, right?

Sorry for the delayed response. Took some time off after the conference.

I will make the bpf skb ext contents survive skb scrubbing in v1.

It seems to suit everyone we've heard from and it is consistent with the
existing bpf_redirect_peer behavior wrt xdp/skb metadata.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-20 11:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-14 17:48 [PATCH RFC net-next 0/6] skb extension for BPF metadata Jakub Sitnicki
2026-07-14 17:48 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 1/6] bpf: Introduce per-packet metadata storage for BPF programs Jakub Sitnicki
2026-07-16 12:10   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-07-16 12:35     ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-07-14 17:48 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 2/6] bpf: Allow access to bpf_sock_ops_kern->skb Jakub Sitnicki
2026-07-14 17:48 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 3/6] bpf: Allow skb extensions to survive packet scrubbing Jakub Sitnicki
2026-07-16 12:11   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-07-16 12:59     ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-07-16 15:06       ` Jason Xing
2026-07-17 17:30         ` Jason Xing
2026-07-20 11:39           ` Jakub Sitnicki [this message]
2026-07-14 17:48 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 4/6] selftests/bpf: Add tests for bpf_dynptr_from_skb_ext Jakub Sitnicki
2026-07-14 17:48 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 5/6] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext scrubbing across tunnels and veths Jakub Sitnicki
2026-07-14 17:48 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 6/6] selftests/bpf: Use non-trivial test payload in xdp_context tests Jakub Sitnicki

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