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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>
Cc: bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Latest libbpf fails to load programs compiled with old LLVM
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2020 11:59:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875z5d7ufl.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzZRu=sxEx7c8KGxSV1C6Aitrk01bSfabv5Bz+XUAMU6rg@mail.gmail.com>

Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> writes:

> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 9:55 AM Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/4/20 1:34 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>> > Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com> writes:
>> >
>> >> On 12/3/20 9:55 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>> >>> Hi Andrii
>> >>>
>> >>> I noticed that recent libbpf versions fail to load BPF files compiled
>> >>> with old versions of LLVM. E.g., if I compile xdp-tools with LLVM 7 I
>> >>> get:
>> >>>
>> >>> $ sudo ./xdp-loader load testns ../lib/testing/xdp_drop.o -vv
>> >>> Loading 1 files on interface 'testns'.
>> >>> libbpf: loading ../lib/testing/xdp_drop.o
>> >>> libbpf: elf: section(3) prog, size 16, link 0, flags 6, type=1
>> >>> libbpf: sec 'prog': failed to find program symbol at offset 0
>> >>> Couldn't open file '../lib/testing/xdp_drop.o': BPF object format invalid
>> >>>
>> >>> The 'failed to find program symbol' error seems to have been introduced
>> >>> with commit c112239272c6 ("libbpf: Parse multi-function sections into
>> >>> multiple BPF programs").
>> >>>
>> >>> Looking at the object file in question, indeed it seems to not have any
>> >>> function symbols defined:
>> >>>
>> >>> $  llvm-objdump --syms ../lib/testing/xdp_drop.o
>> >>>
>> >>> ../lib/testing/xdp_drop.o:  file format elf64-bpf
>> >>>
>> >>> SYMBOL TABLE:
>> >>> 0000000000000000 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 0000000000000037 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 0000000000000042 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 0000000000000068 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 0000000000000071 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 0000000000000076 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 000000000000008a l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 0000000000000097 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 00000000000000a3 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 00000000000000ac l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 00000000000000b5 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 00000000000000bc l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 00000000000000c9 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 00000000000000d4 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 00000000000000dd l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 00000000000000e1 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 00000000000000e5 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 00000000000000ea l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 00000000000000f0 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 00000000000000f9 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 0000000000000103 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 0000000000000113 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 0000000000000122 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 0000000000000131 l       .debug_str 0000000000000000
>> >>> 0000000000000000 l    d  prog       0000000000000000 prog
>> >>> 0000000000000000 l    d  .debug_abbrev      0000000000000000 .debug_abbrev
>> >>> 0000000000000000 l    d  .debug_info        0000000000000000 .debug_info
>> >>> 0000000000000000 l    d  .debug_frame       0000000000000000 .debug_frame
>> >>> 0000000000000000 l    d  .debug_line        0000000000000000 .debug_line
>> >>> 0000000000000000 g       license    0000000000000000 _license
>> >>> 0000000000000000 g       prog       0000000000000000 xdp_drop
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I assume this is because old LLVM versions simply don't emit that symbol
>> >>> information?
>>
>> Thanks for the below instruction and xdp_drop.c file. I can reproduce
>> the issue now.
>>
>> I added another function 'xdp_drop1' in the same thing. Below is the
>> symbol table with llvm7 vs. llvm12.
>>
>> -bash-4.4$ llvm-readelf -symbols xdp-7.o | grep xdp_drop
>>      32: 0000000000000000     0 NOTYPE  GLOBAL DEFAULT     3 xdp_drop
>>      33: 0000000000000010     0 NOTYPE  GLOBAL DEFAULT     3 xdp_drop1
>>
>>    [ 3] prog              PROGBITS        0000000000000000 000040 000020
>> 00  AX  0   0  8
>>
>> -bash-4.4$ llvm-readelf -symbols xdp-12.o | grep xdp_drop
>>      32: 0000000000000000    16 FUNC    GLOBAL DEFAULT     3 xdp_drop
>>      33: 0000000000000010    16 FUNC    GLOBAL DEFAULT     3 xdp_drop1
>> -bash-4.4$
>>
>>    [ 3] prog              PROGBITS        0000000000000000 000040 000020
>> 00  AX  0   0  8
>>
>>
>> Yes, llvm7 does not encode type and size for FUNC's. I guess libbpf can
>> change to recognize NOTYPE and use the symbol value (representing the
>> offset from the start of the section) and section size to
>> calculate the individual function size. This is more complicated than
>> elf file providing FUNC type and symbol size directly.
>
> I think we should just face the fact that LLVM7 is way too old to
> produce a sensible BPF ELF file layout. We can extend:
>
> libbpf: sec 'prog': failed to find program symbol at offset 0
> Couldn't open file '../lib/testing/xdp_drop.o': BPF object format invalid
>
> with a suggestion to upgrade Clang/LLVM to something more recent, if
> that would be helpful.
>
> But I don't want to add error-prone checks and assumptions in the
> already quite complicated logic. Even the kernel itself maintains that
> Clang 10+ needs to be used for its compilation. BPF CO-RE is also not
> working with older than Clang10, so lots of people have already
> upgraded way beyond that.

Wait, what? This is a regression that *breaks people's programs* on
compiler versions that are still very much in the wild! I mean, fine if
you don't want to support new features on such files, but then surely we
can at least revert back to the old behaviour?

> Speaking of legacy. Toke, can you please update all the samples in
> your xdp-tools repo to not use arbitrary sections names. I see
> SEC("prog"), where it should really be SEC("xdp"). It sets a bad
> example for newcomers, IMO.

I used "prog" because that's what iproute2 looks for if you don't supply
a section name, so it makes it convenient to load programs with 'ip'
without supplying the section name. However, I do realise this is not
the best of reasons, and I am not opposed to changing it. However...

> I'm also going to emit warnings in libbpf soon for section names that
> don't follow proper libbpf naming pattern, so it would be good if you
> could get ahead of the curve.

...this sounds like just another way to annoy users by breaking things
that were working before? :/

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-07 11:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-03 17:55 Latest libbpf fails to load programs compiled with old LLVM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-12-04  1:42 ` Yonghong Song
2020-12-04  9:34   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-12-04 17:54     ` Yonghong Song
2020-12-04 19:23       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-12-07 10:59         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2020-12-07 15:55           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-12-07 16:15             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-12-07 16:20               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-12-07 16:51                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-12-07 17:16                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-12-07 22:18                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-12-08  1:20                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-12-07 18:02                 ` David Ahern
2020-12-07 18:14                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-12-07 18:59                     ` David Ahern
2020-12-08  2:47           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-12-08 13:41             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-12-08 18:39               ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-12-08 22:38                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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