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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Hou Tao <houtao@huaweicloud.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"Eduard Zingerman" <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	"Song Liu" <song@kernel.org>, "Hao Luo" <haoluo@google.com>,
	"Yonghong Song" <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"KP Singh" <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	"Stanislav Fomichev" <sdf@fomichev.me>,
	"Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Thomas Weißschuh" <linux@weissschuh.net>,
	"Hou Tao" <houtao1@huawei.com>, "Xu Kuohai" <xukuohai@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf v2 7/9] bpf: Use raw_spinlock_t for LPM trie
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2024 10:47:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878qsua2b5.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fede4cf9-60df-ce3a-9290-18d371622d3b@huaweicloud.com>

Hou Tao <houtao@huaweicloud.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
> On 12/3/2024 9:42 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 4:18 AM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> Hou Tao <houtao@huaweicloud.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> From: Hou Tao <houtao1@huawei.com>
>>>>
>>>> After switching from kmalloc() to the bpf memory allocator, there will be
>>>> no blocking operation during the update of LPM trie. Therefore, change
>>>> trie->lock from spinlock_t to raw_spinlock_t to make LPM trie usable in
>>>> atomic context, even on RT kernels.
>>>>
>>>> The max value of prefixlen is 2048. Therefore, update or deletion
>>>> operations will find the target after at most 2048 comparisons.
>>>> Constructing a test case which updates an element after 2048 comparisons
>>>> under a 8 CPU VM, and the average time and the maximal time for such
>>>> update operation is about 210us and 900us.
>>> That is... quite a long time? I'm not sure we have any guidance on what
>>> the maximum acceptable time is (perhaps the RT folks can weigh in
>>> here?), but stalling for almost a millisecond seems long.
>>>
>>> Especially doing this unconditionally seems a bit risky; this means that
>>> even a networking program using the lpm map in the data path can stall
>>> the system for that long, even if it would have been perfectly happy to
>>> be preempted.
>> I don't share this concern.
>> 2048 comparisons is an extreme case.
>> I'm sure there are a million other ways to stall bpf prog for that long.
>
> 2048 is indeed an extreme case. I would do some test to check how much
> time is used for the normal cases with prefixlen=32 or prefixlen=128.

That would be awesome, thanks!

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-05  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-27  0:46 [PATCH bpf v2 0/9] Fixes for LPM trie Hou Tao
2024-11-27  0:46 ` [PATCH bpf v2 1/9] bpf: Remove unnecessary check when updating " Hou Tao
2024-12-02 16:08   ` Daniel Borkmann
2024-11-27  0:46 ` [PATCH bpf v2 2/9] bpf: Remove unnecessary kfree(im_node) in lpm_trie_update_elem Hou Tao
2024-12-02 16:10   ` Daniel Borkmann
2024-11-27  0:46 ` [PATCH bpf v2 3/9] bpf: Handle BPF_EXIST and BPF_NOEXIST for LPM trie Hou Tao
2024-12-02 17:17   ` Daniel Borkmann
2024-11-27  0:46 ` [PATCH bpf v2 4/9] bpf: Handle in-place update for full LPM trie correctly Hou Tao
2024-11-29 11:45   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-11-27  0:46 ` [PATCH bpf v2 5/9] bpf: Fix exact match conditions in trie_get_next_key() Hou Tao
2024-11-27  0:46 ` [PATCH bpf v2 6/9] bpf: Switch to bpf mem allocator for LPM trie Hou Tao
2024-11-27  5:51   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-11-28  4:12     ` Hou Tao
2024-11-29 12:01   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-11-27  0:46 ` [PATCH bpf v2 7/9] bpf: Use raw_spinlock_t " Hou Tao
2024-11-29 12:18   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-12-03  1:42     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-05  8:52       ` Hou Tao
2024-12-05  9:47         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2024-12-15  9:37           ` Hou Tao
2024-12-15 16:51             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-12-05 17:06         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-06  0:48           ` Hou Tao
2024-12-06  1:40             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-11-27  0:46 ` [PATCH bpf v2 8/9] selftests/bpf: Move test_lpm_map.c to map_tests Hou Tao
2024-11-27  0:46 ` [PATCH bpf v2 9/9] selftests/bpf: Add more test cases for LPM trie Hou Tao
2024-11-27  5:39   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-11-27  8:02     ` Hou Tao

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