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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Amery Hung <ameryhung@gmail.com>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net, andrii@kernel.org,
	alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com, martin.lau@kernel.org,
	kuba@kernel.org, edumazet@google.com, xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com,
	jhs@mojatatu.com, sinquersw@gmail.com, jiri@resnulli.us,
	stfomichev@gmail.com, ekarani.silvestre@ccc.ufcg.edu.br,
	yangpeihao@sjtu.edu.cn, yepeilin.cs@gmail.com,
	ameryhung@gmail.com, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v5 00/13] bpf qdisc
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 20:52:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bju4u2r1.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250313190309.2545711-1-ameryhung@gmail.com>

Amery Hung <ameryhung@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi all,
>
> This patchset aims to support implementing qdisc using bpf struct_ops.
> This version takes a step back and only implements the minimum support
> for bpf qdisc. 1) support of adding skb to bpf_list and bpf_rbtree
> directly and 2) classful qdisc are deferred to future patchsets. In
> addition, we only allow attaching bpf qdisc to root or mq for now.
> This is to prevent accidentally breaking exisiting classful qdiscs
> that rely on data in a child qdisc. This limit may be lifted in the
> future after careful inspection.
>
> * Overview *
>
> This series supports implementing qdisc using bpf struct_ops. bpf qdisc
> aims to be a flexible and easy-to-use infrastructure that allows users to
> quickly experiment with different scheduling algorithms/policies. It only
> requires users to implement core qdisc logic using bpf and implements the
> mundane part for them. In addition, the ability to easily communicate
> between qdisc and other components will also bring new opportunities for
> new applications and optimizations.
>
> * struct_ops changes *
>
> To make struct_ops works better with bpf qdisc, two new changes are
> introduced to bpf specifically for struct_ops programs. Frist, we
> introduce "__ref" postfix for arguments in stub functions in patch 1-2.
> It allows Qdisc_ops->enqueue to acquire an unique referenced kptr to the
> skb argument. Through the reference object tracking mechanism in
> the verifier, we can make sure that the acquired skb will be either
> enqueued or dropped. Besides, no duplicate references can be acquired.
> Then, we allow a referenced kptr to be returned from struct_ops programs
> so that we can return an skb naturally. This is done and tested in patch 3
> and 4.
>
> * Performance of bpf qdisc *
>
> This patchset includes two qdisc examples, bpf_fifo and bpf_fq, for
> __testing__ purposes. For performance test, we compare selftests and their
> kernel counterparts to give you a sense of the performance of qdisc
> implemented in bpf.
>
> The implementation of bpf_fq is fairly complex and slightly different from
> fq so later we only compare the two fifo qdiscs. bpf_fq implements a 
> scheduling algorithm similar to fq before commit 29f834aa326e ("net_sched:
> sch_fq: add 3 bands and WRR scheduling") was introduced. bpf_fifo uses a
> single bpf_list as a queue instead of three queues for different
> priorities in pfifo_fast. The time complexity of fifo however should be
> similar since the queue selection time is negligible.
>
> Test setup:
>
>     client -> qdisc ------------->  server
>     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~                 ~~~~~~
>     nested VM1 @ DC1               VM2 @ DC2
>
> Throghput: iperf3 -t 600, 5 times
>
>       Qdisc        Average (GBits/sec)
>     ----------     -------------------
>     pfifo_fast       12.52 ± 0.26
>     bpf_fifo         11.72 ± 0.32 
>     fq               10.24 ± 0.13
>     bpf_fq           11.92 ± 0.64 
>
> Latency: sockperf pp --tcp -t 600, 5 times
>
>       Qdisc        Average (usec)
>     ----------     --------------
>     pfifo_fast      244.58 ± 7.93
>     bpf_fifo        244.92 ± 15.22
>     fq              234.30 ± 19.25
>     bpf_fq          221.34 ± 10.76
>
> Looking at the two fifo qdiscs, the 6.4% drop in throughput in the bpf
> implementatioin is consistent with previous observation (v8 throughput
> test on a loopback device). This should be able to be mitigated by
> supporting adding skb to bpf_list or bpf_rbtree directly in the future.
>
> * Clean up skb in bpf qdisc during reset *
>
> The current implementation relies on bpf qdisc implementors to correctly
> release skbs in queues (bpf graphs or maps) in .reset, which might not be
> a safe thing to do. The solution as Martin has suggested would be
> supporting private data in struct_ops. This can also help simplifying
> implementation of qdisc that works with mq. For examples, qdiscs in the
> selftest mostly use global data. Therefore, even if user add multiple
> qdisc instances under mq, they would still share the same queue. 

Very cool to see this progress!

Are you aware that the series has a mix of commit author email addresses
(mixing your bytedance.com and gmail addresses)?

Otherwise, for the series:

Acked-by: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-03-13 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-13 19:02 [PATCH bpf-next v5 00/13] bpf qdisc Amery Hung
2025-03-13 19:02 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 01/13] bpf: Prepare to reuse get_ctx_arg_idx Amery Hung
2025-03-13 19:02 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 02/13] bpf: Generalize finding member offset of struct_ops prog Amery Hung
2025-03-13 19:02 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 03/13] bpf: net_sched: Support implementation of Qdisc_ops in bpf Amery Hung
2025-03-13 19:02 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 04/13] bpf: net_sched: Add basic bpf qdisc kfuncs Amery Hung
2025-03-14 20:14   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-03-17 19:44     ` Amery Hung
2025-03-13 19:02 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 05/13] bpf: net_sched: Add a qdisc watchdog timer Amery Hung
2025-03-13 19:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 06/13] bpf: net_sched: Support updating bstats Amery Hung
2025-03-13 19:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 07/13] bpf: net_sched: Support updating qstats Amery Hung
2025-03-14 20:24   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-03-16 13:56     ` Amery Hung
2025-03-13 19:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 08/13] bpf: net_sched: Allow writing to more Qdisc members Amery Hung
2025-03-13 19:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 09/13] bpf: net_sched: Disable attaching bpf qdisc to non root Amery Hung
2025-03-14 20:31   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-03-16 13:58     ` Amery Hung
2025-03-13 19:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 10/13] libbpf: Support creating and destroying qdisc Amery Hung
2025-03-13 19:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 11/13] selftests/bpf: Add a basic fifo qdisc test Amery Hung
2025-03-13 19:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 12/13] selftests/bpf: Add a bpf fq qdisc to selftest Amery Hung
2025-03-14 20:35   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-03-17  1:25     ` Amery Hung
2025-03-13 19:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 13/13] selftests/bpf: Test attaching bpf qdisc to mq and non root Amery Hung
2025-03-13 19:52 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2025-03-14  1:43   ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 00/13] bpf qdisc Amery Hung

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