From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
Avinash Duduskar <avinash.duduskar@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v5 1/3] bpf: Add BPF_FIB_LOOKUP_VLAN flag to bpf_fib_lookup() helper
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2026 16:47:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ik6x1m9n.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9d14ff4b-eadd-4ae2-ab68-5927d4f19eeb@kernel.org>
David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org> writes:
> On 7/1/26 5:02 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>> David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org> writes:
>>> Seems to me the fib_lookup for xdp needs to return the bottom device,
>>> not the vlan device, for forwarding to work. That's why I added the
>>> fields to the struct. That allows the program to push the vlan header if
>>> required. My preference (dream?) was that Tx path had support to tell
>>> the redirect the vlan and h/w added it on send.
>>
>> Sure, returning the bottom device index with the VLAN tag makes sense,
>> and that's basically what this series does (but bails out on stacked
>> VLANs). However, that's not what the helper does today, which is why the
>> flag is there, to opt-in to the new behaviour. I don't think we can just
>> change the ifindex without breaking existing applications (as noted
>> up-thread).
>
> I do not see it as breaking existing programs which is why I chimed in
> on the thread.
>
>>
>>> But really, once stacked devices come into play, I just wanted to make
>>> sure thought is given to different use cases. As you know the lookup
>>> struct if hard bound to 64B and it is trying to cover a lot of use cases.
>>
>> Agreed, I don't think we can handle stacked devices in this helper. But
>> we could split it out into a new one. Something like:
>>
>> struct lower_device_info {
>> enum device_type type;
>> struct {
>> __be16 h_vlan_proto;
>> __be16 h_vlan_TCI;
>> } vlan;
>> /* add other types here */
>> };
>>
>> int xdp_get_lower_device(int ifindex, struct lower_device_info *info);
>>
>> called like:
>>
>> int xdp_program(struct xdp_md *ctx)
>> {
>> struct lower_device_info dev_info = {};
>> int ifindex, ret;
>>
>> ifindex = find_destination(ctx); /* does fib lookup, or something else */
>>
>> while ((ret = xdp_get_lower_device_info(ifindex, &dev_info)) > 0) {
>> if (dev_info.type == VLAN) {
>> push_vlan_tag(ctx, &dev_info.vlan);
>> ifindex = ret;
>> } else {
>> return XDP_PASS; /* we only handle VLAN devices */
>> }
>> }
>>
>> return bpf_redirect(ifindex, 0);
>> }
>>
>>
>> With a helper like this, we obviously don't strictly speaking need to
>> change the fib lookup helper at all. However, for the single-tagged VLAN
>> case, I think supporting it directly in the fib lookup could still have
>> value, as an optimisation: it saves an extra call for resolving the
>> ifindex, and the fields are already there. So I think my preference
>> would be to merge this series as-is, and then follow up with a new kfunc
>> to handle the stacked case. But we could also just drop this series and
>> go straight to the new kfunc.
>>
>> WDYT?
>
> no preference. I only chimed in because of the added flag to the uapi
> which I do not see as needed. If the consensus is that it is in fact
> needed, all good then.
Alright, cool - care to provide an ACK, then? :)
-Toke
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-02 14:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-24 3:05 [PATCH bpf-next v5 0/3] bpf: bidirectional VLAN support for bpf_fib_lookup() Avinash Duduskar
2026-06-24 3:05 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 1/3] bpf: Add BPF_FIB_LOOKUP_VLAN flag to bpf_fib_lookup() helper Avinash Duduskar
2026-06-24 9:33 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2026-06-24 11:54 ` Avinash Duduskar
2026-06-29 15:11 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2026-06-26 16:25 ` David Ahern
2026-06-29 15:08 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2026-06-29 15:49 ` David Ahern
2026-06-30 10:00 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2026-06-30 14:18 ` David Ahern
2026-06-30 16:04 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2026-06-30 17:13 ` David Ahern
2026-07-01 11:02 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2026-07-01 15:08 ` David Ahern
2026-07-02 14:47 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2026-06-24 3:05 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 2/3] bpf: Add BPF_FIB_LOOKUP_VLAN_INPUT " Avinash Duduskar
2026-06-24 3:05 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 3/3] selftests/bpf: Add bpf_fib_lookup() VLAN flag tests Avinash Duduskar
2026-06-24 3:15 ` sashiko-bot
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