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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Borna Cafuk <borna.cafuk@sartura.hr>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, Luka Perkov <luka.perkov@sartura.hr>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@google.com>
Subject: Re: HASH_OF_MAPS inner map allocation from BPF
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2020 12:24:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mu1znt7q.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGeTCaWDk_ok38Xm8H8-8HQYP-bbPqMuwWDpEYM=i1=e0e88bw@mail.gmail.com>

Borna Cafuk <borna.cafuk@sartura.hr> writes:

> On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 3:33 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Borna Cafuk <borna.cafuk@sartura.hr> writes:
>>
>> > On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 12:47 AM Alexei Starovoitov
>> > <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 7:57 AM Borna Cafuk <borna.cafuk@sartura.hr> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hello everyone,
>> >> >
>> >> > Judging by [0], the inner maps in BPF_MAP_TYPE_HASH_OF_MAPS can only be created
>> >> > from the userspace. This seems quite limiting in regard to what can be done
>> >> > with them.
>> >> >
>> >> > Are there any plans to allow for creating the inner maps from BPF programs?
>> >> >
>> >> > [0] https://stackoverflow.com/a/63391528
>> >>
>> >> Did you ask that question or your use case is different?
>> >> Creating a new map for map_in_map from bpf prog can be implemented.
>> >> bpf_map_update_elem() is doing memory allocation for map elements.
>> >> In such a case calling this helper on map_in_map can, in theory, create a new
>> >> inner map and insert it into the outer map.
>> >
>> > No, it wasn't me who asked that question, but it seemed close enough to
>> > my issue. My use case calls for modifying the syscount example from BCC[1].
>> >
>> > The idea is to have an outer map where the keys are PIDs, and inner maps where
>> > the keys are system call numbers. This would enable tracking the number of
>> > syscalls made by each process and the makeup of those calls for all processes
>> > simultaneously.
>> >
>> > [1] https://github.com/iovisor/bcc/blob/master/libbpf-tools/syscount.bpf.c
>>
>> Well, if you just want to count, map-in-map seems a bit overkill? You
>> could just do:
>>
>> struct {
>>   u32 pid;
>>   u32 syscall;
>> } map_key;
>>
>> and use that?
>>
>> -Toke
>>
>
> I have considered that, but maps in maps seem better for when I need to get the
> data about a single process's syscalls: It requires reading only one of the
> inner maps in its entirety. If I have a composite key like that, I don't see
> any way, other than:
>  * either iterating through all the possible keys for a process
>    (i.e. over all syscalls) and looking them up in the map, or
>  * iterating over all entries in the map and filtering them.
>
> Looking at it again, the first option does not seem _that_ bad,

You could even use BPF_MAP_LOOKUP_BATCH to do this in one operation, I
suppose...

> but just iterating over one (inner) map would be easier to fit into
> our use-case.

...but yeah, I see what you mean. Well, maybe BPF local storage per
process would also be a nice fit here?

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-09 10:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-04 14:56 HASH_OF_MAPS inner map allocation from BPF Borna Cafuk
2020-09-04 22:47 ` Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found]   ` <CAFLU3KstRTXs3nwyE8uQY7q9k-sRr1yKCtOQX3gMq3nsxnwHXw@mail.gmail.com>
2020-09-05 14:57     ` KP Singh
2020-09-07 13:13   ` Borna Cafuk
2020-09-07 13:32     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-09-09  9:49       ` Borna Cafuk
2020-09-09 10:24         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2020-09-09 10:35           ` KP Singh
2020-09-10 10:11             ` Borna Cafuk

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