From: "Jose E. Marchesi" <jose.marchesi@oracle.com>
To: Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: GCC and binutils support for BPF V4 instructions
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 21:11:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sf95kyef.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8629d2ae-75dc-89de-7cee-1790e9116384@linux.dev> (Yonghong Song's message of "Sun, 30 Jul 2023 09:12:05 -0700")
> On 7/29/23 9:54 PM, Jose E. Marchesi wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 1:29 AM Jose E. Marchesi
>>> <jose.marchesi@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 11:01 AM Jose E. Marchesi
>>>>> <jose.marchesi@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/28/23 9:41 AM, Jose E. Marchesi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>>>> Just a heads up regarding the new BPF V4 instructions and their
>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>> in the GNU Toolchain.
>>>>>>>>> V4 sdiv/smod instructions
>>>>>>>>> Binutils has been updated to use the V4 encoding of these
>>>>>>>>> instructions, which used to be part of the xbpf testing dialect used
>>>>>>>>> in GCC. GCC generates these instructions for signed division when
>>>>>>>>> -mcpu=v4 or higher.
>>>>>>>>> V4 sign-extending register move instructions
>>>>>>>>> V4 signed load instructions
>>>>>>>>> V4 byte swap instructions
>>>>>>>>> Supported in assembler, disassembler and linker. GCC generates
>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>> instructions when -mcpu=v4 or higher.
>>>>>>>>> V4 32-bit unconditional jump instruction
>>>>>>>>> Supported in assembler and disassembler. GCC doesn't generate
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> instruction.
>>>>>>>>> However, the assembler has been expanded in order to perform the
>>>>>>>>> following relaxations when the disp16 field of a jump instruction is
>>>>>>>>> known at assembly time, and is overflown, unless -mno-relax is
>>>>>>>>> specified:
>>>>>>>>> JA disp16 -> JAL disp32
>>>>>>>>> Jxx disp16 -> Jxx +1; JA +1; JAL disp32
>>>>>>>>> Where Jxx is one of the conditional jump instructions such as
>>>>>>>>> jeq,
>>>>>>>>> jlt, etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sounds great. The above 'JA/Jxx disp16' transformation matches
>>>>>>>> what llvm did as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not by chance ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now what is pending in binutils is to relax these jumps in the linker as
>>>>>>> well. But it is very low priority, compared to get these kernel
>>>>>>> selftests building and running. So it will happen, but probably not
>>>>>>> anytime soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way, for doing things like that (further object transformations
>>>>>> by linkers and the like) we will need to have the ELF files annotated
>>>>>> with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - The BPF cpu version the object was compiled for: v1, v2, v3, v4, and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Individual flags specifying the BPF cpu capabilities (alu32, bswap,
>>>>>> jmp32, etc) required/expected by the code in the object.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note it is interesting to being able to denote both, for flexibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are 32 bits available for machine-specific flags in e_flags, which
>>>>>> are commonly used for this purpose by other arches. For BPF I would
>>>>>> suggest something like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #define EF_BPF_ALU32 0x00000001
>>>>>> #define EF_BPF_JMP32 0x00000002
>>>>>> #define EF_BPF_BSWAP 0x00000004
>>>>>> #define EF_BPF_SDIV 0x00000008
>>>>>> #define EF_BPF_CPUVER 0x00FF0000
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting idea. I don't mind, but what are we going to do with this info?
>>>>> I cannot think of anything useful libbpf could do with it.
>>>>> For other archs such flags make sense, since disasm of everything
>>>>> to discover properties is hard. For BPF we will parse all insns anyway,
>>>>> so additional info in ELF doesn't give any additional insight.
>>>>
>>>> I mainly had link-time relaxation in mind. The linker needs to know
>>>> what instructions are available (JMP32 or not) in order to decide what
>>>> to relax, and to what.
>>>
>>> But the assembler has little choice when the jump target is >16bits.
>>> It can use jmp32 or error.
>> When the assembler sees a jump instruction:
>> goto EXPR
>> there are several possibilities:
>> 1. EXPR consists on a literal number like 1, -10 or 0xff, or an
>> expression that can be resolved during the first assembler pass (like
>> 8 * 64). The numerical result is interpreted as number of 64-bit
>> words minus one. In this case, the assembler can immediately decide
>> whether the operand is >16 bits, relaxing to the jmp32 jump if cpu >=
>> v4 and unless -mno-relax is passed in the command line.
>> 2. EXPR is a symbolic expression involving a symbol that can be
>> resolved
>> during the second assembler pass. For example, `foo + 10'. In this
>> case, there are two possibilities:
>> 2.1. The symbol is an absolute symbol. In this case the value
>> is
>> interpreted as-such and no conversion is done by the assembler.
>> So if for example the user invokes the assembler passing
>> `--defsym foo=10', the assembled instruction is `ja 20'.
>> 2.2. The symbol is a PC-relative or section-relative symbol. In
>> this
>> case the value is interpreted as a byte offset (the assembler
>> takes care to transform offsets relative to the current section
>> into PC-relative offsets whenever necessary). This is the case
>> of labels. For these symbols, the BPF assembler converts the
>> value from bytes to number of 64-bit words minus one. So for
>> example for `ja done' where `done' has the value 256 bytes, the
>> assembled instruction is `ja 31'.
>> 3. EXPR is a symbolic expression involving a symbol that cannot be
>> resolved during the second assembler pass. In this case, a
>> relocation for the 16-bit immediate field in the instruction is
>> generated in the assembled object. There is no R_BPF_64_16
>> relocation defined by BPF as of yet, so we are using
>> R_BPF_GNU_64_16=256, which as we agreed uses a high relocation number
>> to avoid collisions. Since gas is a standalone assembler, it seems
>> sensible to emit a relocation rather than erroing out in these
>> situations. ld knows how to handle these relocs when linking BPF
>> objects together.
>>
>>> I guess you're proposing to encode this e_flags in the text of asm ?
>>> Special asm directive that will force asm to error or use jmp32?
>> GAS uses command-line options for that.
>> When GCC is invoked with -mcpu=v3, for example, it passes the
>> corresponding option to the assembler so it expects a BPF V3 assembly
>> program. In that scenario, if the user does a jump to an address that is
>>> 16bit in an inline asm, the assembler will error out,
>> because relaxing to jmp32 is not a possibility in V3. Ditto for
>> compiler options like -msdiv or -mjmp32, that both clang and GCC
>> support.
>> I don't know how clang configures its integrated assembler... I
>> guess by
>> calling some function. But it is the same principle: if you tell clang
>> to generate v3 bpf and you include a header that uses a v4 instruction
>> (or overflown jump that would require relaxation) in inline asm, you
>> want an error.
>
> If -mcpu=<version> is specified in the clang command line,
> then the cpu <version> will be encoded in IR and will be
> passed to the integrated assembler. And if you specify
> -mcpu=v3 in the command line and your code has
> cpu v4 inline assembly code, the compiler will error out.
Perfect :)
Thanks for the confirmation.
>>
>>>> Also as you mention the disassembler can look in the object to determine
>>>> which instructions shall be recognized and with insructions shall be
>>>> reported as <unknown>. Right now it is necessary to pass an explicit
>>>> option to the assembler, and the default is v4.
>>>
>>> Disambiguating between unknown and exact insn kinda makes sense for disasm.
>>> For assembler it's kinda weird. If text says 'sdiv' the asm should emit
>>> binary code for it regardless of asm directive.
>> Unless configured to not do so? See above.
>>
>>> It seems e_flags can only be emitted by assembler.
>>> Like if it needs to use jmp32 it will add EF_BPF_JMP32.
>> Yep.
>>
>>> Still feels that we can live without these flags, but not a bad
>>> addition.
>> The individual flags... I am not sure, other arches have them, but
>> maybe
>> having them in BPF doesn't make much sense and it is not worth the extra
>> complication and wasted bits in e_flags. How realistic is to expect
>> that some kernel may support a particular version of the BPF ISA, and
>> also have support for some particular instruction from a later ISA as
>> the result of a backport or something? Not for me to judge... I was
>> already bitten by my utter ignorance on kernel business when I added
>> that silly useless -mkernel=VERSION option to GCC 8-)
>> What I am pretty sure is that we will need something like
>> EF_BPF_CPUVER
>> if we are ever gonna support relaxation in any linker external to
>> libbpf, and also to detect (and error/warn) when several objects with
>> different BPF versions are linked together.
>>
>>> As far as flag names, let's use EF_ prefix. I think it's more canonical.
>>> And single 0xF is probably enough for cpu ver.
>> Agreed.
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Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-28 16:41 GCC and binutils support for BPF V4 instructions Jose E. Marchesi
2023-07-28 16:47 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-07-28 17:06 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2023-07-28 16:59 ` Yonghong Song
2023-07-28 17:40 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2023-07-28 18:01 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2023-07-28 23:49 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-07-29 8:29 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2023-07-29 17:56 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-07-30 4:54 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2023-07-30 16:12 ` Yonghong Song
2023-07-30 19:11 ` Jose E. Marchesi [this message]
2023-07-30 16:53 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-07-30 21:06 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2023-07-31 18:10 ` Alexei Starovoitov
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