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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net,
	hawk@kernel.org, ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org, lorenzo@kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, magnus.karlsson@intel.com,
	andrii@kernel.org, stfomichev@gmail.com,
	aleksander.lobakin@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf 2/2] veth: update mem type in xdp_buff
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 18:53:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v7kh4e87.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251013162408.76200e17@kernel.org>

Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> writes:

> On Wed, 8 Oct 2025 12:37:22 +0200 Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:
>> > > I guess we're slipping into a philosophical discussion but I'd say 
>> > > that the problem is that rxq stores part of what is de facto xdp buff
>> > > state. It is evacuated into the xdp frame when frame is constructed,
>> > > as packet is detached from driver context. We need to reconstitute it
>> > > when we convert frame (skb, or anything else) back info an xdp buff.  
>> > 
>> > So let us have mem type per xdp_buff then. Feels clunky anyways to change
>> > it on whole rxq on xdp_buff basis. Maybe then everyone will be happy?  
>> 
>> ...however would we be fine with taking a potential performance hit?
>
> I'd think the perf hit will be a blocker, supposedly it's in rxq for
> a reason. We are updating it per packet in the few places that are
> coded up correctly (cpumap) so while it is indeed kinda weird we're
> not making it any worse?
>
> Maybe others disagree. I don't feel super strongly. My gut feeling is
> what I drafted is best we can do in a fix.

I'd tend to agree, although I don't have a good intuition for how much
of a performance hit this would end up being.

-Toke


      reply	other threads:[~2025-10-14 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-03 14:02 [PATCH bpf 0/2] xdp: fix page_pool leaks Maciej Fijalkowski
2025-10-03 14:02 ` [PATCH bpf 1/2] xdp: update xdp_rxq_info's mem type in XDP generic hook Maciej Fijalkowski
2025-10-03 17:29   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-10-07 19:39     ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2025-10-07 20:18       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-10-03 14:02 ` [PATCH bpf 2/2] veth: update mem type in xdp_buff Maciej Fijalkowski
2025-10-03 23:10   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-07 14:59     ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2025-10-08  1:11       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-08  9:22         ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2025-10-08 10:37           ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2025-10-13 23:24             ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-14 16:53               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]

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