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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
	npache@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com, dev.jain@arm.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, usamaarif642@gmail.com,
	gutierrez.asier@huawei-partners.com, willy@infradead.org,
	ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net, andrii@kernel.org,
	ameryhung@gmail.com, rientjes@google.com, corbet@lwn.net,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 mm-new 04/10] bpf: mark vma->vm_mm as trusted
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 11:36:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9179bcd4-db43-451e-a4b7-77eb5b32d097@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOAHbBaC2sd578CCT_15R64P75MAtYopm+pDrRqmOJpaOB-Dg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Aug 31, 2025 at 11:16:27AM +0800, Yafang Shao wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 6:49 PM Lorenzo Stoakes
> <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 11:05:01AM +0800, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 7:11 PM Lorenzo Stoakes
> > > <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 02:12:12PM +0800, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 11:46 PM Lorenzo Stoakes
> > > > > <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 03:19:42PM +0800, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > > > > > > Every VMA must have an associated mm_struct, and it is safe to access
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Err this isn't true? Pretty sure special VMAs don't have that set.
> > > > >
> > > > > I’m not aware of any VMA that doesn’t belong to an mm_struct. If there
> > > > > is such a case, it would be helpful if you could point it out. In any
> > > > > case, I’ll remove the VMA-related code in the next version since it’s
> > > > > unnecessary.
> > > >
> > > > If you lok at get_vma_name() in fs/proc/task_mmu.c you'll see:
> > > >
> > > >         if (!vma->vm_mm) {
> > > >                 *name = "[vdso]";
> > > >                 return;
> > > >         }
> > > >
> > > > So a VDSO will have this condition.
> > > >
> > > > I did a quick drgn()/printk() test and didn't see any, but maybe my system - but
> > > > in any case this appears to be a valid situation that can arise, presumably
> > > > because it's a VMA somehow shared with multiple mm's or something truly god
> > > > awful like that :)
> > >
> > > Thanks for clarifying that.
> >
> > No problem! These weird edge cases are... weird and hugely confusing. I should
> > document some of this somewhere, as it's at the moment more 'oh yeah I
> > remember...' then having to dig through to figure it out.
> >
> > The "/dev/zero file-backed but actually anon if MAP_PRIVATE'd" is another fun
> > unique case.
>
> It would be immensely helpful if you could document these cases. We
> truly appreciate your contribution and the time you've invested in
> this.

Sure I will add to my TODOs :) I agree it's not great that we have these odd
edge cases and do not document them clearly enough.

Will get to it :)

>
> --
> Regards
> Yafang

Thanks, Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-01 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-26  7:19 [PATCH v6 mm-new 00/10] mm, bpf: BPF based THP order selection Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 01/10] mm: thp: add support for " Yafang Shao
2025-08-27  2:57   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-27 11:39     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:04       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-27 15:03   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  5:54     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-28 10:50       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29  3:01         ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29 10:42           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-31  3:11             ` Yafang Shao
2025-09-01 11:39               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-02  2:48                 ` Yafang Shao
2025-09-02  7:50                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-03  2:10                     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29  4:56   ` Barry Song
2025-08-29  5:36     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 02/10] mm: thp: add a new kfunc bpf_mm_get_mem_cgroup() Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:34   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-27 20:50     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-28 10:40       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28 16:00         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-29 10:45           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  6:57     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-28 10:42       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29  3:09         ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 20:45   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-28  6:58     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 03/10] mm: thp: add a new kfunc bpf_mm_get_task() Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:42   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-27 21:50     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-08-28  6:50       ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-28 10:51       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29  3:15         ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29 10:42           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  6:47     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29 10:43       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 04/10] bpf: mark vma->vm_mm as trusted Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:45   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  6:12     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-28 11:11       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29  3:05         ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29 10:49           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-31  3:16             ` Yafang Shao
2025-09-01 10:36               ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 05/10] selftests/bpf: add a simple BPF based THP policy Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 06/10] selftests/bpf: add test case for khugepaged fork Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 07/10] selftests/bpf: add test case to update thp policy Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 08/10] selftests/bpf: add test cases for invalid thp_adjust usage Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 09/10] Documentation: add BPF-based THP adjustment documentation Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 10/10] MAINTAINERS: add entry for BPF-based THP adjustment Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:47   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  6:08     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:42 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 00/10] mm, bpf: BPF based THP order selection David Hildenbrand
2025-08-26  8:33   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26 12:06     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  9:52   ` Usama Arif
2025-08-26 12:10     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26 12:03   ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 13:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  2:58   ` Yafang Shao

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